Subj : fantasy & folklore pt2
To   : David Drummond
From : Charles Angelich
Date : Tue Nov 27 2001 07:44 pm

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Hello David - 

DD>>>>> Go for Linux, whole hog. 

CA>> Seems odd advice considering what you have said about your
CA>> own setup below? 

DD> It would be more convenient if I could compile the nodelist
DD> on the Linux system. The Linux nodelist compiler code
DD> requires a later version of Linux than what I have on this
DD> machine. Other than that, this machine/OS version does
DD> everything else I require of it, I'm not inclined to muck
DD> with it. 

Wouldn't this also be true for others you counsel to "Go for
Linux, whole hog"? 

CA>> --8<--cut 

DD>>> For a while my BBS was a hybrid across the LAN, part
DD>>> Linux and part OS/2. 

DD>>> Even now I do the nodelist compiling from a Win9x machine
DD>>> on the LAN (into a Samba share). I never did get Fastlist
DD>>> for Linux to compile. 

CA>> If you rely on W9x and it relies on DOS for rescue disks
CA>> and other maintenance functions then your statement to me
CA>> that you did not rely on DOS was not entirely valid. 

DD> I use no DOS rescue disks on the Win98 machine. The data
DD> directories are backed up. If the machine dies, it would be
DD> reinstalled from scratch, and the data restored. 

To "reinstall" W9x you would be using DOS. You can't reinstall
a nonexistent OS to itself. AFAIK Linux doesn't restore W9x. 

DD>>> This is not really an issue as BinkD doen't use a
DD>>> normally compiled nodelist. 

RJT>>>> It'd be easier if Scott Dudley would get around to
RJT>>>> releasing the source for current Maximus, so that a
RJT>>>> port could be accomplished in short order, and then I'd
RJT>>>> have a lot less to worry about. 

DD>>> Run Max on the DOS box, with all of the
DD>>> files/messagebases on Samba shares on the Linux box,
DD>>> accessed over the LAN. Then slowly migrate what ever apps
DD>>> you can to Linux equivalents. 

CA>> I've been flamed for saying this but if DOS vanished from
CA>> this space/time continuum many would avoid the transition
CA>> to LINUX like the plague. DOS has made the transition
CA>> doable. No DOS, fewer LINUX users. Many who claim to be
CA>> LINUX only rely on DOS and W9x to fill in the spaces for
CA>> them. 

DD> In order to make a transition from DOS to Linux, one MUST
DD> be running DOS in the first place. Eventually, when one has
DD> transferred everything, the DOS is redundant. 

Redundant until the wonder-OS hit's the fan. Then it restores
what you had and the cycle repeats. 

DD> The only reason I "rely" on DOS is because I'm too lazy to
DD> re-install my Linux machine. It's been running for a few
DD> years now without any hassles (other than that Nodelist
DD> Compiler). 

You make it sound as though installing newer releases is not an
easy task even for those who believe they understand Linux
installs? 

DD> The reason for the LAN between the Linux machine and the
DD> Windows machines here is to add features to the Windows
DD> machine(s). 

CA>> DOS is the ghost in our machines! 

DD> In some it has been exorcised. 

It continues to exist in your own setup and probably the
majority of other systems as well. 

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