Subj : 386 machines To : Charles Angelich From : Andy Ball Date : Sun Apr 22 2001 05:13 pm Hello Charles! CA> Many 386 max out at 8megs... I've been wondering about that recently. I ought to try squeezing 16Mb in a 386sx machine I recently built. CA> ...there are many 4meg 386s out there... Very true, I've seen a lot of 386 SX machines with 4Mb RAM and a 40Mb fixed disk (often a Conner CP3044). CA> Older memory chips are not truly available if you're > not in a group of hardware techs. Many say they have > boxes full of them - I have yet to see these boxes? As an individual geek I can honestly say I literally had boxes full of DIP DRAM chips when I lived in Britain. Many were 256K x 1 bit, or 256K x 4 bits, and might have been appropriate for upgrading some 386 boards. I used four of the 256K x 4 bit chips to upgrade an Atari 520 STFM to 1Mb of RAM. CA> The other problem that is overlooked is that at one > time a 500meg hard drive was all that DOS could use > and most were engineered for DOS use. I remember a time when DOS was limited to 32Mb drives. I imagine you're referring to the imfamous 528Mb barrier though, which was a result of combined limitations of DOS and BIOS. I could make really good use of a few 500Mb ATA drives right now! CA> On older PS/2's you find 35meg drives on 386s and the > PS/2 drive not using a ribbon cable and having MCA > slots makes upgrading dicey. Many PS/2s are a creature all of their own. MCA was technically very good, but doesn't help if you have a drawer full of ISA cards. They tended to use ESDI drives on some machines, which can complicate upgrades. CA> All conversations regarding the 386 machine become > theoretical, vague, and then just dwindle away. Why? I built one just recently. Regards, - Andy. --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-2 # Origin: FamilyNet HQ (8:8/2) # Origin: FamilyNet Echogate [972] 496-0650 (1:124/5009) * Origin: BBS Networks @ www.bbsnets.com 808-839-5016 (1:10/345) .