Subj : Re: OT Military
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From : <<Doctor Who>>
Date : Tue Jan 14 2003 07:39 pm

hahahaha
that sounds illegal ;)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kavanagh" <twgsdotorg@twgs.org>
To: <jonlewter@netzero.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:32 AM
Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military


>
> Illegals get "welfare" benefits in the US from most state and municipal
governments, including free medical care, assisted housing, dahdah dehdah
dehdah. I live in Massachusetts. Our former Governor, Mike Dukakis (who ran
as the Democratic candidate against Bush Sr.) had his staff issue fake ss
numbers to illegals in the 80's so that they could get driving licenses and
apply for state welfare.
>
>
> But I agree with your premise, they contribute as much to the society as
anyone else, so who cares if they get societal coverage if they have a
problem that needs help from  the rest.
>
> Some abuse the system, some citizens and residents do also
>
> >From a message by <<Doctor Who>> about Re: OT Military:
> > How do they cost?
> They are in the US to make an honest buck
> They get 0 medical, 0 goverment benefits (yea lets talk about WHAT GROUP
> actually hurts the economy), and they still pay taxes on what they buy ..
> and it is true that alot of small farmers that use this type of "harvest"
> wouldnt make it otherwise .. I guess buying non-american heavy equipment
to
> harvest produce might be a better way of doing things .. but I dont think
> these people are bad .. In fact it would probably be better if we could
> selectivly kick out alot of americans and let some of these illegals stay
in
> the country .. Too many people really forget that the US is not even 250
> years old .. and it's made up of "Immigrants" .. I mean take a look around
> ..
> and if it's the american jobs that your worried about .. then just wait
till
> the produce starts coming in fully on boats .. Clothes + Plastics +
> Electronics come in on boats now .. so just get more stuff imported too !!
> .. save the usa .. get it from china
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "feral" <twgsdotorg@twgs.org>
> To: <jonlewter@netzero.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:48 PM
> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: OT Military
>
>
> >
> > I understand economics. I'm not talking about ENRON crap either.
Illegals
> cause harm to the US economy, for the reasons I listed earlier, regardless
> of what they
> > spend to sustain themselves. The majority of them send part or most of
> their earnings back to sustain their family in the country they came from.
> Perhaps their working for substandard pay does allow Cherokee to buy cheap
> produce. However, I wonder how much of Cherokee's tax money goes to waste
as
> a direct result of these illegal immigrants? Far more than the few pennies
> he saves buying cheap produce.
> >
> > I stand reproached Sanders, illegals do make it easier for Cherokee to
buy
> cheap produce.
> >
> > (some of this reply was in rebuttal of Doc Who's earlier reply to my
post,
> if you are wondering where some of this came from)
> >
> > >From a message by col sanders about Re: OT Military:
> > > Dude, you have no understanding of economics.  But, without going into
> > it, thats not even what I argued.  I am not sure where you pulled that
> > from, but I never said it "benefits the American people".  I said it
> > allowed Cherokee to buy cheap produce.
> >
> > Col Sanders
> >
> >
> >
>
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