Subj : Re: OT Military To : All From : col sanders Date : Mon Jan 13 2003 04:29 pm I quote "Who do you think lived in Israel before 1948? It > wasn't >>>> >>>the Jews. " >>> Read what I sent you, Jews began arriving en masse in the area now called Israel in 1917. Col Sanders Cherokee wrote: >It amazes me how utterly unable you are to answer a simple question. > >Which fact did I state that is incorrect? > > > >--- col sanders wrote: > > >>Ok dude, real quick, use this, even though its the UN it looks to be >>pretty accurate... (Usually I find the UN to be WAY liberal) It >>will >>show you where your facts are wrong and maybe give the two of you >>some >>facts to agree upon so you can have an intelligent conversation... >> >>http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/ngo/history.html >> >>Cherokee wrote: >> >> >> >>>No sticking your toes in Sanders, either jump in our stay the heck >>> >>> >>out. >> >> >>>What facts did I getr wrong? >>> >>> >>> >>>--- col sanders wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I would jump in but I don' have time today , both of you can >>>> >>>> >>rest >> >> >>>>assures the answer is somewhere between the two of you. You both >>>>seem >>>>to represent opposite sides but are unwilling to agree on the >>>>*facts*. >>>>If you cannot do that much, you will never have agreement. >>>> >>>>Col Sanders >>>> >>>>Cherokee wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>--- sloppy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Israeli abuse of Palestinans? Israeli men aren't strapping >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>themselves >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>full of explosives and shooting their way into Palestinan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>settlements. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>No, but Israeli soldiers have killed hundreds of innocent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Palestinians, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>in addition to lots of guilty ones. The Israeli Army occupies >>>>>Palestinian villages and refuge camps, and supports colonization >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>(heh, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>had to stick a TW term in here) of land that does not rightfully >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>belong >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>to Israel. Who do you think lived in Israel before 1948? It >>>>> >>>>> >>wasn't >> >> >>>>>the Jews. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>We should stand by Israel because they have been dealing with >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>terrorist attacks for years, and maybe, just maybe if the Arab >>>>> >>>>> >>world >> >> >>>>>(besides Egypt and Jordan) would accept the right of Israel to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>exist, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>steps could be made to end the violence. >>>>> >>>>>Israel's policies towards the Arabs have brought on the terrorist >>>>>attacks, just as US policy in the Middle East brought on Sep 11. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I'm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>not saying terrorism is justified, far from it. But just because >>>>>someone is attacked by a terrorist does not mean they are right >>>>> >>>>> >>and >> >> >>>>>that we should support their policies. What do you think would >>>>> >>>>> >>make >> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>rest of the Arab world recognize Israel's right to exist? And why >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>do >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>you think the Israelis should have the right to exist but the >>>>>Palestinians should not? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I personally believe however that there can never be peace in the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Middle East until "Palestinans" are gone. And why are they called >>>>>Palestinans by everyone? They are just Arabs that happen to be >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>living >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>in that region of the Middle East. >>>>> >>>>>So your answer is genocide of the Palestinian people? They are >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>called >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Palestinians because they live in Palestine, just like we are >>>>> >>>>> >>called >> >> >>>>>Americans because we live in America. According to your logic, >>>>> >>>>> >>most >> >> >>>>>Americans are just Europeans that happen to be living in America. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>We >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>should just be called Europeans, and whoever is strong enough to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>push >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>us around and occupy our territory is justified in doing so. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > --- FEddy 1.4.03/modPHX * Origin: http://www.twgs.org -- THE Trade Wars web forum! (1:229/522.0) .