Subj : Re: OT Military To : All From : col sanders Date : Mon Jan 13 2003 02:35 pm Ok dude, real quick, use this, even though its the UN it looks to be pretty accurate... (Usually I find the UN to be WAY liberal) It will show you where your facts are wrong and maybe give the two of you some facts to agree upon so you can have an intelligent conversation... http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/ngo/history.html Cherokee wrote: >No sticking your toes in Sanders, either jump in our stay the heck out. > >What facts did I getr wrong? > > > >--- col sanders wrote: > > >>I would jump in but I don' have time today , both of you can rest >>assures the answer is somewhere between the two of you. You both >>seem >>to represent opposite sides but are unwilling to agree on the >>*facts*. >> If you cannot do that much, you will never have agreement. >> >>Col Sanders >> >>Cherokee wrote: >> >> >> >>>--- sloppy wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Israeli abuse of Palestinans? Israeli men aren't strapping >>>> >>>> >>themselves >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>full of explosives and shooting their way into Palestinan >>> >>> >>settlements. >> >> >>>No, but Israeli soldiers have killed hundreds of innocent >>> >>> >>Palestinians, >> >> >>>in addition to lots of guilty ones. The Israeli Army occupies >>>Palestinian villages and refuge camps, and supports colonization >>> >>> >>(heh, >> >> >>>had to stick a TW term in here) of land that does not rightfully >>> >>> >>belong >> >> >>>to Israel. Who do you think lived in Israel before 1948? It wasn't >>>the Jews. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>We should stand by Israel because they have been dealing with >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>terrorist attacks for years, and maybe, just maybe if the Arab world >>>(besides Egypt and Jordan) would accept the right of Israel to >>> >>> >>exist, >> >> >>>steps could be made to end the violence. >>> >>>Israel's policies towards the Arabs have brought on the terrorist >>>attacks, just as US policy in the Middle East brought on Sep 11. >>> >>> >>I'm >> >> >>>not saying terrorism is justified, far from it. But just because >>>someone is attacked by a terrorist does not mean they are right and >>>that we should support their policies. What do you think would make >>> >>> >>the >> >> >>>rest of the Arab world recognize Israel's right to exist? And why >>> >>> >>do >> >> >>>you think the Israelis should have the right to exist but the >>>Palestinians should not? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I personally believe however that there can never be peace in the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Middle East until "Palestinans" are gone. And why are they called >>>Palestinans by everyone? They are just Arabs that happen to be >>> >>> >>living >> >> >>>in that region of the Middle East. >>> >>>So your answer is genocide of the Palestinian people? They are >>> >>> >>called >> >> >>>Palestinians because they live in Palestine, just like we are called >>>Americans because we live in America. According to your logic, most >>>Americans are just Europeans that happen to be living in America. >>> >>> >>We >> >> >>>should just be called Europeans, and whoever is strong enough to >>> >>> >>push >> >> >>>us around and occupy our territory is justified in doing so. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > --- FEddy 1.4.03/modPHX * Origin: http://www.twgs.org -- THE Trade Wars web forum! (1:229/522.0) .