Subj : Re: hey To : All From : Liquid Chaos Date : Thu Jan 09 2003 04:55 pm "Anyways you asked i stated..." Yes I did. You think I would take offense or something? Just state what you got to state, no need to refer to justify what you said. :) I know I asked. And to be perfectly honest I asked Silver myself why hold back the file if Hardcoded was running a public game of USO? Wouldnt that mean everyone got a fair share? Even if someone did take it to their private server they still wouldnt have an advantage because the game would be public on Hardcoded. But he stuck to his guns and Im glad he is doing so. Sometimes people mean well but realize it wouldnt be in the best interest to do it, in their opinion. So Silver made a decision to reverse it. See the difference is he didnt reverse anything that would effect how the game is played out... yet. He just might have reversed some opinions about his ability. Where in the past the USO game play was changed because of actual edits made after the game started. That is the big difference here. Obviously until USO starts, then the differences would be challenged if something happened in the game itself. Until then atleast people are more active because of this. :) The Chaos >From a message by Space Ghost about Re: hey: > This issue to me is 2 fold 1.he backed out of releasing it.. You can say he changed his mind but to me it appears it backed out. 2.I cant agree with saying the edits are 100% disclosed yet no .twa file If your really giving 100% disclosure give the .twa out so people can use the settings with out having to go to the website and try and duplicate everything.... To me the only reason to give full disclosure and not the .twa is there is something he doesnt want us to see. ************************* Now the added benfit is you can safe guard against changes in mid game..*(which i don't think silver would do )* Also another added benefit is you can catch any possible mistakes AND no one team gets any "hidden" information. Anyways you asked i stated... SG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liquid Chaos" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:49 AM Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: hey > > Ontop of that noone is perfect. People make mistakes. Just because one person had a bad impression doesnt mean it will be for others. > > And visa versa, just because one person had a good experience doesnt mean everyone else will have the same. But as someone stated about SG, they talked to him and they for a fact know he cares about TW. I know for a fact Silver cares just as much. I have talked to him many times and the guy is 100 percent dedicated and cares about any issues that go on with players and Hardcoded. He makes it his personal business to try and please everyone. But just like everyone else he will get burned out and thats that. > > And this twa issue. Dont count on Silver to release it. It is a lose/lose situation for him. Dont release and he gets flak, release and he will be called spineless. > > BTW SG is the issue with Silver not releasing the file or is it because he changed his mind? I think you might of answered it in a earlier post, but damnit I am lazy. :) > > The Chaos > > >From a message by Liquid Chaos about Re: hey: > > I never said I disgarded anyones opinion. I said it is bum luck the first impression was a bad one. What I was trying to point out is people voted for him for a reason. Im not saying Silver is good and anyone who thinks other wise is wrong, I was merely stating that it is unfortunate that someone had a bad first impression on Hardcoded. Because once that is set, like you said no matter what award or changes are made that first impression sticks. Same with USO as well. > > > > And I know any award doesnt garuntee anything. And dont try to put words in my mouth saying im trying to "Poo Poo Animals opinion". Everyone has a right to any opinion and I would never "down" anyone for their opinions either. Are you trying to "Poo Poo" my opinion? > > > > The funny part is all this is coming from a text based game. Hell quake 2 and quake 3 never got this bad. I guess when you leave a game to your imagination it gets out of hand. > > > > The Chaos > > > > >From a message by SLG about Re: hey: > > > But you miss my point... let me put it another way... Screwing up doesn't > > make something/someone forever bad or guarantee that something/someone > > can't improve and one day be great or good.. on the other hand.. wining an > > award, under any circumstance, doesn't guarantee or mean that something/or > > someone is forever a good thing or guaranteed great or trustworthy. > > > > Just like your restaurant experience.. you had a bad one and you now have a > > poor opinion of the place.. .. doesn't make any difference how many awards > > it won ... before or after your visit...It will never be any more than a > > bad place to eat in your opinion and the fact that it once won an award or > > won an award after your visit, doesn't make that experience any less > > distasteful and probably won't change your opinion any...... > > > > If you're going to discount Animals experience and poo poo his opinion, > > then you also have to do the same with silvers award and his opinion of > > himself/server. > > > > Wouldn't surprise me if I don't make sense.. but someone out there might > > get what I mean :) > > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- FEddy 1.4.03/modPHX * Origin: http://www.twgs.org -- THE Trade Wars web forum! 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