Subj : Re: hey
To   : All
From : <<Doctor Who>>
Date : Wed Jan 08 2003 09:17 pm

Main Entry: 2bull<insert bad word here>
Date: circa 1942
intransitive senses
1 usually vulgar : to talk foolishly, boastfully, or idly
2 usually vulgar : to engage in a discursive discussion
transitive senses, usually vulgar : to talk nonsense to especially with the
intention of deceiving or misleading

----- Original Message -----
From: "prestone" <twgsdotorg@twgs.org>
To: <jonlewter@netzero.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:57 AM
Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: hey


>
> hey webster, what's the definition of bull<insert bad word here>?
>
> >From a message by Cherokee about Re: hey:
> > People need to stop and think about the whole concept of "giving your
> word" and "lying".
>
> "Giving your word" means making a promise to do something.
> "Lying" means saying something which you know is not true.
>
> "Changing your mind" is not breaking your word if your word wasn't
> given. Nor does "changing your mind" make your previous statement a
> "Lie".
>
> I'll ask again, who has never changed their mind about something?
>
> Whoever can honestly answer "yes" is more stubborn than intelligent.
>
>
>
> --- LadyRogue <twgsdotorg@twgs.org> wrote:
> >
> > I think he's basing the statement on "your word" on the fact you said
> > you
> > would release a file that you have since chosen not to.  *shrug*
> > doesn't
> > matter to me.  I doubt I will be playing.
> >
> > Bernice (LadyRogue)
> >
> > On 8 Jan 2003 at 14:48, Silver Dragon wrote:
> >
> >
> > My word isnt good? Ok dude you need to stop right now, you dont know
> > me,
> > you have never spoken to me and it sounds to me youre pretty much out
> > of
> > the loop the past year. You have no idea how good my word is. I have
> > done
> > much for TW and dont appreciate you just showing up and putting me on
> >
> > blast. A simple switch of opinion on a minor thing like the TWA
> > hardly would
> > present any evidence that I would change anything when a game has
> > started.
> > Dont question my loyalty to tradewars or this game because you think
> > you
> > know something based on a year ago. You have no idea what youre
> > speaking
> > about.
> > Silver Dragon
> > >From a message by Animal about Re: hey:
> > > ok whatever it was on your board last year and was screwed up. You
> > allready said you were going to do something this year and changed
> > you mind how many more time you going to cahnge your mind before and
> > after the game starts? Don't matter to me i'm not playing anyways but
> > might matter to those
> > that are they just need to be aware if you change your mind now
> > what's stopping you from changing then? Your word? Which is not too
> > good at this point
> >  >
> >  > >From a message by Silver Dragon about Re: hey:
> >  > > Ok, up until then I had never run a server before my server was
> > on a
> > POS of a machine which I had massive problems with and caused issues
> > with the server. It took me a while to get my bearings on how to run
> > a proper
> > server. Since then I have not had a single issue and my server runs
> > on a dual
> > 850 dell server which I purchased soley to run the TWGS if that shows
> > you
> > any dedication. By my second year I was voted #1 sysop and #1 server
> > at
> > the 2002 EIS awards. I helped put together planet TW which is a very
> > advanced site and took mass time to setup. I dont know what else to
> > tell ya
> > man. I dedicated alot of time to TW, sure I had a rough start with
> > falty
> > equipment and 0 knowledge of the TWGS but I think I have done very
> > well
> > since then. I would hope you would look at my career as a whole and
> > see
> > what I have done before you go telling people I am not trustworthy.
> >  >  > And yes team Hardcoded won BOTE, would these elite players play
> > on
> > my server if I screwd people all the time? Shrug thats all I got to
> > say.
> >  >  > Silver Dragon
> >  >  > >From a message by Animal about Re: hey:
> >  >  > > was like the first couple or three months
> >  >  >  >
> >  >  >  > >From a message by Silver Dragon about Re: hey:
> >  >  >  > > Thank You cherokee, Like I said I think he played the
> > first week I
> > ever ran a server if he did this is what happened, I refilled terra
> > with collies
> > when it ran dry in a high turn game, my bad the only other thing I
> > can
> > remember was my second game when I tried to do some edits and totally
> >
> > messed up the planets lol, the top fig producer made 1 fig for every
> > 500
> > collies lol. So I repaired the error the second day without a rebang.
> > Oh yes
> > now I remember the game he is talking about a rebang had to do with
> > aliens
> > that ran rampant. Shrug all in the first week as sysop since then he
> > hasnt
> > been back and thats fine, but to judge my whole career on my first
> > week is
> > unfair. Shrug.
> >  >  >  >  > Silver Dragon
> >  >  >  >  > >From a message by Cherokee about Re: hey:
> >  >  >  >  > > Everyone makes mistakes.  I know I have.  I don't know
> > the
> > details of
> >  >  >  >  > what you are describing, but I seriously doubt Silver
> > Dragon
> >  >  >  >  > intentionally screwed you over. ANY shortcomings he may
> > have
> > shown a
> >  >  >  >  > few years ago have been more than made up for. He's a
> > good guy,
> > and he
> >  >  >  >  > deserves to be cut some slack.
> >  >  >  >  >
> >  >  >  >  > To correct your point on the tournaments, Hardcoded is
> > now the
> > home of
> >  >  >  >  > USO, and for 2003, will host BOTE as a result of Team
> > Hardcoded's
> >  >  >  >  > victory in BOTE 2002.  I don't know for sure what is
> > going to
> > happen
> >  >  >  >  > with WTC, as both Eleq and Fuse seem to have other
> > priorities
> > now.
> >  >  >  >  >
> >  >  >  >  > I thought about asking to take over the WTC, but I
> > believe that the
> >  >  >  >  > WTC, as a game with no rules, is fatally flawed. I'm sure
> > people
> > have
> >  >  >  >  > some terrific memories of the WTC from years past, but I
> > think it's
> >  >  >  >  > time to let go, and move on to something new.
> >  >  >  >  >
> >  >  >  >  > In fact, I'd be perfectly happy if Jerry would be willing
> > to run
> >  >  >  >  > another TW Chess Championships this summer when WTC would
> >
> > normally run.
> >  >  >  >  >  Then we'd have USO, Chess, BOTE, and HHT.
> >  >  >  >  >
> >  >  >  >  > Of course, a lot of us would like a few minor changes to
> > Chess
> > before
> >  >  >  >  > accepting it whole-heartedly as one of the major
> > tournies, but that
> >  >  >  >  > conversation is for another day.
> >  >  >  >  >
> >  >  >  >  >
> >  >  >  >  > --- Animal <twgsdotorg@twgs.org> wrote:
> >  >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  >  > > Bone i am not questioning his honesty. Silver Dragon
> > has
> > screwed me
> >  >  >  >  > > at least three times twice in tedit and once by banging
> > a game
> > four
> >  >  >  >  > > to five days after it started with out warning. There
> > is no question
> >  >  >  >  > > of his honesty i know what it is by experience. I
> > stated i won't
> > ever
> >  >  >  >  > > play in any game on his server i have told him this and
> > other
> > people,
> >  >  >  >  > > i keep waiting for him to throw a temper tantrum like
> > another
> > sysop
> >  >  >  >  > > that, name also start with a "S". When i read all the
> > post it
> >  >  >  >  > > bothered me that he stated it would be released and all
> > of a
> > sudden
> >  >  >  >  > > it wasn't, i was just wondering why?, What is being
> > hidden?
> >  >  >  >  > > Maybe when you have played in as many tournies as i
> > have and
> > have
> >  >  >  >  > > changes made when the game started that were different
> > than
> >  >  >  >  > > advertised or spent something like 216 days every night
> > at 2 or
> > 3 am
> >  >  >  >  > > at extern which i got Rebel Alliance a second place in
> > the Bote
> > you
> >  >  >  >  > > will know what i mean. I beleive if he is going to host
> > uso
> > someone
> >  >  >  >  > > else should do the wtc he shouldn't have two of the 4
> > major
> > touries.
> >  >  >  >  > >   Now Jerry is a great sysop so is Mac, Sure miss Eleq,
> > Never
> > had any
> >  >  >  >  > > problems on any of their servers, Silver Dragon's isn't
> > the only
> >  >  >  >  > > board i don't trust by experience.
> >  >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  >  > >
> >  >  >  >  > > >From a message by bone collector about Re: Re:hey:
> >  >  >  >  > > > I cannot believe that ANYONE would question the
> > integrity or
> >  >  >  >  > > honesty of Silver.  Maybe it is just that I havent
> > played in many
> >  >  >  >  > > tournies, but for someone to accuse one of the BEST
> > sysops to
> > ever be
> >  >  >  >  > > involved in TW of not being honest is ridiculous.  The
> > game hasnt
> >  >  >  >  > > even started and yet people are already ASSUMING
> > something
> > will go
> >  >  >  >  > > wrong.  Get off of his back.  Who cares how he came to
> > the
> > decision
> >  >  >  >  > > to not release the file?  If you really think he is
> > gonna change
> >  >  >  >  > > something midstream, dont play.  I personally think
> > that Silver
> > along
> >  >  >  >  > > with Jerry are the most honest and trustworthy TW
> > people
> > around.
> >  >  >  >  > > Quit griping until you have a legitimate reason.
> >  >  >  >  > >  >
> >  >  >  >  > >  > Bone
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >From a message by SLG about Re:hey:
> >  >  >  >  > >  > > animal! :) long time no hear.. hope all is well :)
> >  >  >  >  > >  >
> >  >  >  >  > >  >
> >  >  >  >  > >  > At 12:51 AM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >  >  >  >  > >  >
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >Hey All  i'm not one to post in the forums but
> > after reading
> > this
> >  >  >  >  > > forum
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >for a while now the last few days have been great.
> > Do most
> > of you
> >  >  >  >  > > need a
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >little cheese to go with all the whine?
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >I saw where Silver said he was going to release the
> > twa file
> > for
> >  >  >  >  > > the uso
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >then cahnged his mind. Wonder why? maybe there are
> > some edits he
> >  >  >  >  > > is going
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >to change before or after the game starts don't
> > know don't
> > really
> >  >  >  >  > > care as
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >after being screwed on his board three times i
> > won't ever
> > play
> >  >  >  >  > > there
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >again, I was asked last to play least year and had
> > to refuse
> >  >  >  >  > > because it
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >was on Harcoded now this year after taking a break
> > from
> > major
> >  >  >  >  > > tournies for
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >a year was thinking about it then i saw it and
> > think he said
> > wtc
> >  >  >  >  > > is on
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >hardcoded what a shame two tournies i won't be
> > playing. I
> > have
> >  >  >  >  > > been trough
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >two uso fiascos and not wanting to go through
> > another one.
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >To all of you starting to play tournies remember
> > don't start it
> >  >  >  >  > > unless you
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >are committed to be on every night at extern
> > whether it be
> > at 1
> >  >  >  >  > > am, 2am, 3
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >am, 4 am whatever that is the only way to win or
> > place you
> > have
> >  >  >  >  > > to commit
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >Sorry about the long post didn't mean to bore you
> >  >  >  >  > >  > >Happy hunting
> >  >  >  >  > >  >
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