Subj : Re: Fw: Apology to Silver To : All From : Space Ghost Date : Wed Jan 08 2003 01:24 pm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Space Ghost" To: "Timberwolf" Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:20 AM Subject: Re: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > Actually i put this to rest a day ago > > Now im just responding and defending.... > > I've been over it.I'm playing the Warm Up and i'm currently trying to fill/ > develope a team. > > How much more of an endorsment do you need?? > > This doesnt make his decision right... > This doesnt mean im ever going to agree with it... > This doesnt mean im going to allow him to spread > misinformation about .twa file either. > As many have pointed out i will have to deal with it though... > > I invite anyone of you to filter my mad ravings > At any time. > > And if anything maybe some people are educated in the use of the .twa file. > > Veterns have had tools that they have used for a long time. > > > You however Timberpup have no worries.... > You can sit over there and throw stones from your fence. None of them can > ever hit you..and you can always change sides.... > > > Space Ghost > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timberwolf" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:23 AM > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > > > > > don't matter man. > > > > beating a dead horse. > > > > Arguements and debates are always gonna happen whether or not twa or edits > are released. Someone always is gonna disagree. can't satisfy anyone. > > > > Best way to do it is make it simple like "5001 sectors, 750 turns, light > edits on ships and planets". In this case, the only person that would > complain is --(Cowboy)-- cuz the bastard will not play games over 5000 > sectors - ROFL. > > > > We should put the issue to rest, bro. > > > > Timber > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > > From: "Space Ghost" > > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:25:53 -0500 > > > > > > > >and thats exactly the type of ignorance im trying to fight > > > > > >You state silver hasnt hidden anything. > > > > > >You see if thats true the reason for withholding the .twa file becomes > paranoia.... > > > > > >How does releasing the .twa file give me kemper and preston an advantage > Timberwolf IF all edits are released > > >timberwolf??? > > >This leaves newbie teams at a big disaadvantage... > > >BECAUSE me kemper and preston can look at the edits and duplicate them > waaay morre easily then a newbie can. > > > > > >If your going to defend not giving the .twa file out... > > >I can totally agree with you EXCEPT the edits are already released?? > > >Either the edits are 100% released timber or they are not.. > > > > > >If your saying that a few edits are not being disclosed > > >then by all means withhold the .twa... > > > > > >But silver can offer no reason other then > > > > > >"cuz i changed my mind:" > > >"never had to do it b4" > > >"all edits are posted" > > > > > >All of these are just lame ass excuses to not > > >move forward.... > > > > > >It's ok i really am over it.. > > >BUT i will still defend my position and silver will keep > > >Not having a reason other then "cuz i said so" > > > > > >Next year the League will have a rule in place that states > > >all non stock games must release the .twa file. > > > > > >Least i hope we will have that rule in place by then..... > > > > > >If you understoof the issue at all timber then u might have a > > >platform to debate from...... > > > > > >You need to educate urself Timber....the only shame is you act like you > already know about it and your own words show your ignorance. > > > > > > > > > > > >SG > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Timberwolf > > > To: spaceghost@booinc.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:27 AM > > > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > > > > > > > > > > > what the file is gonna do is give certain players unfair advantages. > > > > > > Guys like yourself, Prestone, Kemper, etc are excellent strategists > and game > > > planners. > > > > > > This leaves newbie teams behind in the dust before the game even > started. > > > > > > I would rather see a game baned with no edits announced at all. Just > this > > > simple words in this example: > > > > > > "5000 sectors, 750 turns, light edit ships, light edit planets" > > > > > > That's it. > > > > > > This forces everyone equally to figure out the edits for themselves, > maybe > > > even give a newbie team a fighting chance if they can figure out the > edits > > > quick enough. > > > > > > My problem, though, SG, is not you wanting the .twa file. It is how > you > > > handled the issue. Silver Dragon made a decision and he is sticking to > his > > > guns and he is hell a lot better than Bad girl with the emphasis on > BAD as > > > in bad moderator and game op. > > > > > > I doubt Silver Dragon is gonna hide anything cuz he sure as hell aint > gonna > > > drop the ball by doing a "babsy" in the USO. > > > > > > There's a word of the day for her. "Babsy" - ing up a major > tournament > > > with mid tourney changes and bad decision making.as Kav just > mentioned. > > > > > > You gotta do what you gotta do. > > > > > > It is pointless to try and argue with you when we both are stubborn as > a > > > pair of jackasses like ourselves LOL. > > > > > > Timbewolf > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Space Ghost" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:44 PM > > > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > timber > > > > > > > > do u even understand what this file does.. > > > > how this file will be used ,,,, > > > > > > > > And why anyone playing this game SHOULD care wether or > > > > not its released. > > > > > > > > I got no problem getting into this and explain to you my > > > > position..But do you REALLY want to understand the issue? > > > > > > > > So far you have only shown ignorance on the matter..... > > > > It is entirely possible this is my fault .. > > > > It is entirely possible that i have yet again Flamed all > > > > Meaning out of a subject....... > > > > > > > > I dont think you even want to understand what im saying at all... > > > > > > > > But to give you some meaning..maybe a nudge in the right direction > why > > > dont you re read my apology to Silver. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Timberwolf > > > > To: spaceghost@booinc.com > > > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:16 PM > > > > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all right. There you go. You admit you played well for years > without a > > > .twa. > > > > > > > > So why do you need one? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Space Ghost" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:12 PM > > > > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ohhh what u gonna be a player there timber pup?? > > > > > > > > > > I cant wait to wait and see... > > > > > > > > > > You dont want none of me bro..u cried and complained last time i > got > > > on > > > > ur ass and u BEGGED me to leave you alone... then i agreed to > leave you > > > > alone but even that > > > > > wasnt good enuff.... > > > > > > > > > > You want some more timberpup??? > > > > > > > > > > No one can count on you for NOTHING..... > > > > > You were asked to cover the news for the HHT and you couldnt > even do > > > that > > > > without Whining. > > > > > > > > > > Something doesnt go your way you don;t stand up and fight for > what u > > > > believe in... > > > > > > > > > > You "take ur ball and go home" > > > > > > > > > > I've watched you take a stand on an issue then back down and > crumble > > > in > > > > the light of Tradewars players opinions.... > > > > > You have no back bone and i doubt you ever did... > > > > > Your right abou one thing... > > > > > I've played WELL for years without a .twa > > > > > > > > > > Sg > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Timberwolf > > > > > To: spaceghost@booinc.com > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:42 PM > > > > > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't give up, Space Bitch, do you? > > > > > > > > > > You have played well for years without a .twa file and just > because > > > you > > > > made > > > > > one up for grabs for HHT does not mean SD has to do it to. > > > > > > > > > > As for my opinion not mattering cuz I'm not a player..just > wait and > > > see > > > > :P > > > > > > > > > > Timber > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "space ghost" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:51 PM > > > > > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow u dont understand sarcasm a bit do ya??? > > > > > > I'm about as sorry for posting on this subject as Phillip > Morris > > > is > > > > over > > > > > Cancer Causing Cigerettes... > > > > > > You keep trying to stop me from posting my opinion on your > Lame > > > > Excuse of > > > > > buckeling under peer pressure..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep your .twa file this year Silver... > > > > > > Keep telling people how it isnt useful except to the Elite > > > > > > And by all means keep writing the TwLeague Board Trying to > get > > > them > > > > to > > > > > shut me up... > > > > > > Keep telling people your reasons are you dont want the game > over > > > > played > > > > > and u want people to experience new edits and by all means > keep > > > telling > > > > > people all edits are released on the website..... > > > > > > None of which will work......... > > > > > > > > > > > > You will just continue to look like an idiot for not > releasing > > > > something > > > > > to help out the smaller teams... > > > > > > Lets keep the advantage in the Veterns Favor... > > > > > > > > > > > > It's already been pointed out that enuff edits have been > released > > > to > > > > > generate one's own copy of the uso 03. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And by all means..Keep being a Putz.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From a message by Silver Dragon about Re: Apology to > Silver: > > > > > > > I really dont know what to say. Space Ghost, I have always > > > shown > > > > you > > > > > respect and never once had an issue with you. I have never > given > > > you > > > > reason > > > > > to mis trust me that I at least know of. And then over > something as > > > > simple > > > > > as this you go balistic and tried to single handedly ruin my > game, > > > rep > > > > and > > > > > server all in one shot. Whats the deal? is there some deep > dark > > > secret > > > > or > > > > > something I did that you have been holding inside? I dont > know, ICQ > > > me > > > > > sometime let me know what this was really about it caught be > mad > > > > surprise > > > > > dude. I know you care deeply for the USO and so do I. Shrug > > > > > > > Silver Dragon > > > > > > > >From a message by Space Ghost about Apology to Silver: > > > > > > > > First of all it seems i was wrong... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While my heart may have been in the right place > > > > > > > releasing the .twa file on my own is not a good idea. > > > > > > > Silver knows that teams who want to win will be running > thier > > > > > > > own private game with his settings with or with out the > .twa > > > file > > > > > provided > > > > > > > Further stating that i wasnt going to play was an even > > > > > > > worse thing to say... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have people who i promised i would devote time and > resources > > > > > to...they look to me for leadership and i am willing to > squander > > > the > > > > little > > > > > bit of an advantage i can give my team???? i can provide my > team > > > with > > > > a > > > > > private practice game..And Silver said it best,,,Not every > team > > > will > > > > have > > > > > that advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been admonished by veterns for giving away thier > > > > > > > advantage!!!....After all we can't really expect that the > > > veterns > > > > and > > > > > the teams who want to play to win arent going to have thier > own > > > warm up > > > > > game on thier own servers....with the exact settings i was > going to > > > > compose > > > > > for them. > > > > > > > Why make it easy for the compition?? > > > > > > > They can see the edits same as me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If i released a .twa file i would be giving away my teams > > > > > advantage,,hell i would be giving away other people's > advantage.... > > > > infact > > > > > i would be making it easier for newbie teams to compete.. if > > > there > > > > is > > > > > goona be newbie teams> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i won't be releasing the .twa file for uso... > > > > > > > let the teams make thier own .twa > > > > > > > I'll be running a private practice game for my team > > > > > > > and to hell with worring about being fair. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let the veterns keep the adavantage > > > > > > > This is obviously how everyone wants it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So again i apologize to Silver Dragon... > > > > > > > He knows more about what players want > > > > > > > and i should not assume that i know better then him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Space Ghost > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > --- > > > > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > --- > > > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > > > > > >--- > > >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- FEddy 1.4.03/modPHX * Origin: http://www.twgs.org -- THE Trade Wars web forum! 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