Subj : Re: Apology to Silver To : All From : <> Date : Tue Jan 07 2003 07:36 pm shut ur trap chicken boy all edits SHOULD be posted .. Forget the "2 people" know idea ... works great for someone who can find a way to abuse an edit .. works bad for those who didnt know that the edit was there...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "col sanders" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:50 PM Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > Wow, thats not what I got out of the flame thread... here is what I got... > > SG was upset the Silver Dragon went back on his pledge to release the > .twa, and then wondered allowed that if he could be convinved to go back > on that pledge, just how stable would Silver hold up to peer pressure > once the game started. > > SG then took the opportunity, since he had alot of attention, to crusade > for .twa file release in non-stock games in the league. > > > So, I did not see the part about trying to stop folks from playing in > the USO... In fact, I agree with Silver Dragon to some extent on the > USO issue, I don't think he should release the TWA, but I go further and > think he should not release all the edits either. I also think he > should definitely not run a practice game, and should not furnish the > edits for other servers to do so. Also, despite my past issues with > Silver Dragon, i am really not worried about him being fair during the > game. I don't think he is trying to hide anything, he think he was > backed into a corner publicly and has no graceful way out hence all the > flaming . Thats my opinion. > > As for the .twa release in league games, I agree with SG and think they > should do that for sure. > > heh, funny how I can agree with some from both sides... But I didn't > see the same agenda you saw... but then maybe I missed something... > > Col Sanders > > Dark Helmet wrote: > > >well, SG's agenda right now appears to be that he feels that he absolutely > >has to have that twa file (maybe cause he doesn't think he can compete > >without the knowledge to be gained from the file) and now he want's the > >whole tw universe to not play in the USO. > > > >umm. well, read that a few times and you'll get the idea of what I am > >trying to say. I think.... > > > > > >DH > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: "col sanders" > >>To: dh_supreme@hotmail.com > >>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > >>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:25:44 -0500 > >> > >>I really am curious as to just what is SG's agenda? I need to know > >>whether to agree with it, and therefore join the consipracy, or to fight > >>against it... > >> > >>Col Sanders > >> > >>Dark Helmet wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>And what he does is worse than what you are doing? > >>> > >>>Let's all be like space ghost and throw a temper tantrum because we > >>> > >>> > >>aren't > >> > >> > >>>getting our way. We gotta use the twleague website and any other source > >>> > >>> > >>on > >> > >> > >>>the web to spout off. > >>> > >>>I throw one of those once. Fortunately I grew out of it. > >>> > >>>The question is: with SG ever grow out if it? > >>> > >>>I for one am surpised that he was able to go this long not using his > >>>twleague position for his own personal agenda's for this long. IE: this > >>> > >>> > >>is > >> > >> > >>>why I don't do league games no more. :) > >>> > >>> > >>>OH I LOVE TO THROW JET FUEL ON THE FLAME > >>> > >>> > >>>DH > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>From: "Space Ghost" > >>>>To: dh_supreme@hotmail.com > >>>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > >>>>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:12:16 -0500 > >>>> > >>>>ohhh what u gonna be a player there timber pup?? > >>>> > >>>>I cant wait to wait and see... > >>>> > >>>>You dont want none of me bro..u cried and complained last time i got on > >>>> > >>>> > >>ur > >> > >> > >>>>ass and u BEGGED me to leave you alone... then i agreed to leave you > >>>> > >>>> > >>alone > >> > >> > >>>>but even that > >>>>wasnt good enuff.... > >>>> > >>>>You want some more timberpup??? > >>>> > >>>>No one can count on you for NOTHING..... > >>>>You were asked to cover the news for the HHT and you couldnt even do > >>>> > >>>> > >>that > >> > >> > >>>>without Whining. > >>>> > >>>>Something doesnt go your way you don;t stand up and fight for what u > >>>>believe in... > >>>> > >>>>You "take ur ball and go home" > >>>> > >>>>I've watched you take a stand on an issue then back down and crumble in > >>>>the light of Tradewars players opinions.... > >>>>You have no back bone and i doubt you ever did... > >>>>Your right abou one thing... > >>>>I've played WELL for years without a .twa > >>>> > >>>>Sg > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: Timberwolf > >>>> To: spaceghost@booinc.com > >>>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:42 PM > >>>> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> You don't give up, Space Bitch, do you? > >>>> > >>>> You have played well for years without a .twa file and just because > >>>> > >>>> > >>you > >> > >> > >>>>made > >>>> one up for grabs for HHT does not mean SD has to do it to. > >>>> > >>>> As for my opinion not mattering cuz I'm not a player..just wait and > >>>> > >>>> > >>see > >> > >> > >>>>:P > >>>> > >>>> Timber > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "space ghost" > >>>> To: > >>>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:51 PM > >>>> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > Wow u dont understand sarcasm a bit do ya??? > >>>> > I'm about as sorry for posting on this subject as Phillip Morris is > >>>>over > >>>> Cancer Causing Cigerettes... > >>>> > You keep trying to stop me from posting my opinion on your Lame > >>>>Excuse of > >>>> buckeling under peer pressure..... > >>>> > > >>>> > Keep your .twa file this year Silver... > >>>> > Keep telling people how it isnt useful except to the Elite > >>>> > And by all means keep writing the TwLeague Board Trying to get them > >>>>to > >>>> shut me up... > >>>> > Keep telling people your reasons are you dont want the game over > >>>>played > >>>> and u want people to experience new edits and by all means keep > >>>> > >>>> > >>telling > >> > >> > >>>> people all edits are released on the website..... > >>>> > None of which will work......... > >>>> > > >>>> > You will just continue to look like an idiot for not releasing > >>>>something > >>>> to help out the smaller teams... > >>>> > Lets keep the advantage in the Veterns Favor... > >>>> > > >>>> > It's already been pointed out that enuff edits have been released to > >>>> generate one's own copy of the uso 03. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > And by all means..Keep being a Putz.... > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >From a message by Silver Dragon about Re: Apology to Silver: > >>>> > > I really dont know what to say. Space Ghost, I have always shown > >>>>you > >>>> respect and never once had an issue with you. I have never given you > >>>>reason > >>>> to mis trust me that I at least know of. And then over something as > >>>>simple > >>>> as this you go balistic and tried to single handedly ruin my game, rep > >>>>and > >>>> server all in one shot. Whats the deal? is there some deep dark secret > >>>>or > >>>> something I did that you have been holding inside? I dont know, ICQ me > >>>> sometime let me know what this was really about it caught be mad > >>>>surprise > >>>> dude. I know you care deeply for the USO and so do I. Shrug > >>>> > > Silver Dragon > >>>> > > >From a message by Space Ghost about Apology to Silver: > >>>> > > > First of all it seems i was wrong... > >>>> > > > >>>> > > While my heart may have been in the right place > >>>> > > releasing the .twa file on my own is not a good idea. > >>>> > > Silver knows that teams who want to win will be running thier > >>>> > > own private game with his settings with or with out the .twa file > >>>> provided > >>>> > > Further stating that i wasnt going to play was an even > >>>> > > worse thing to say... > >>>> > > > >>>> > > I have people who i promised i would devote time and resources > >>>> to...they look to me for leadership and i am willing to squander the > >>>>little > >>>> bit of an advantage i can give my team???? i can provide my team with > >>>>a > >>>> private practice game..And Silver said it best,,,Not every team will > >>>>have > >>>> that advantage. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > I have been admonished by veterns for giving away thier > >>>> > > advantage!!!....After all we can't really expect that the veterns > >>>>and > >>>> the teams who want to play to win arent going to have thier own warm > >>>> > >>>> > >>up > >> > >> > >>>> game on thier own servers....with the exact settings i was going to > >>>>compose > >>>> for them. > >>>> > > Why make it easy for the compition?? > >>>> > > They can see the edits same as me. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > If i released a .twa file i would be giving away my teams > >>>> advantage,,hell i would be giving away other people's advantage.... > >>>>infact > >>>> i would be making it easier for newbie teams to compete.. >>>>is > >>>> goona be newbie teams> > >>>> > > > >>>> > > So i won't be releasing the .twa file for uso... > >>>> > > let the teams make thier own .twa > >>>> > > I'll be running a private practice game for my team > >>>> > > and to hell with worring about being fair. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Let the veterns keep the adavantage > >>>> > > This is obviously how everyone wants it. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > So again i apologize to Silver Dragon... > >>>> > > He knows more about what players want > >>>> > > and i should not assume that i know better then him. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Space Ghost > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > --- > >>>> > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> --- > >>>> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>i > >>> > >>>_________________________________________________________________ > >>>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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