Subj : Re: Apology to Silver To : All From : Space Ghost Date : Tue Jan 07 2003 06:52 pm daaaaaamn it man.. I didnt realise you had a Bias against me.... Maybe you need a little one on one time with me... Make you feel the love..so to speak....heh Space Ghost ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dark Helmet" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:19 PM Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > In the begining I saw the same thing. As it went on, I was under the > impression the SG didn't want anybody to play. > > I agree that SD should release the twa file. For the ONLY reason that he > originally said he was. In a general sense, I don't think the twa file > should be made available to just anybody. A person spends alot of time and > energy creating a game, why should just anybody take that and bang a game on > their own server. That person is getting credit for a great game even > though they put no effort into creating it. It would be just like > downloading an entire website and using it as my own. > > I think that SD has decided to not release it and has set that decision in > stone. I don't think that SG, me, you or anybody else should badger him to > the extent that he has been over it. It is his decision and if you don't > like it, say you don't, explain why and leave it at that. > > SG feels so strongly about his point on this matter and he shouldn't play. > I don't play in the USO for several reasons. This isn't one of them though. > > Maybe I see this because of my bias against SG, I dunno.... > > DH > > > > > > > > >From: "col sanders" > >To: dh_supreme@hotmail.com > >Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:50:32 -0500 > > > >Wow, thats not what I got out of the flame thread... here is what I got... > > > >SG was upset the Silver Dragon went back on his pledge to release the > >.twa, and then wondered allowed that if he could be convinved to go back > >on that pledge, just how stable would Silver hold up to peer pressure > >once the game started. > > > >SG then took the opportunity, since he had alot of attention, to crusade > >for .twa file release in non-stock games in the league. > > > > > >So, I did not see the part about trying to stop folks from playing in > >the USO... In fact, I agree with Silver Dragon to some extent on the > >USO issue, I don't think he should release the TWA, but I go further and > >think he should not release all the edits either. I also think he > >should definitely not run a practice game, and should not furnish the > >edits for other servers to do so. Also, despite my past issues with > >Silver Dragon, i am really not worried about him being fair during the > >game. I don't think he is trying to hide anything, he think he was > >backed into a corner publicly and has no graceful way out hence all the > >flaming . Thats my opinion. > > > >As for the .twa release in league games, I agree with SG and think they > >should do that for sure. > > > >heh, funny how I can agree with some from both sides... But I didn't > >see the same agenda you saw... but then maybe I missed something... > > > >Col Sanders > > > >Dark Helmet wrote: > > > > >well, SG's agenda right now appears to be that he feels that he > >absolutely > > >has to have that twa file (maybe cause he doesn't think he can compete > > >without the knowledge to be gained from the file) and now he want's the > > >whole tw universe to not play in the USO. > > > > > >umm. well, read that a few times and you'll get the idea of what I am > > >trying to say. I think.... > > > > > > > > >DH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: "col sanders" > > >>To: dh_supreme@hotmail.com > > >>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > >>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:25:44 -0500 > > >> > > >>I really am curious as to just what is SG's agenda? I need to know > > >>whether to agree with it, and therefore join the consipracy, or to fight > > >>against it... > > >> > > >>Col Sanders > > >> > > >>Dark Helmet wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>And what he does is worse than what you are doing? > > >>> > > >>>Let's all be like space ghost and throw a temper tantrum because we > > >>> > > >>> > > >>aren't > > >> > > >> > > >>>getting our way. We gotta use the twleague website and any other > >source > > >>> > > >>> > > >>on > > >> > > >> > > >>>the web to spout off. > > >>> > > >>>I throw one of those once. Fortunately I grew out of it. > > >>> > > >>>The question is: with SG ever grow out if it? > > >>> > > >>>I for one am surpised that he was able to go this long not using his > > >>>twleague position for his own personal agenda's for this long. IE: > >this > > >>> > > >>> > > >>is > > >> > > >> > > >>>why I don't do league games no more. :) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>OH I LOVE TO THROW JET FUEL ON THE FLAME > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>DH > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>From: "Space Ghost" > > >>>>To: dh_supreme@hotmail.com > > >>>>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > >>>>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:12:16 -0500 > > >>>> > > >>>>ohhh what u gonna be a player there timber pup?? > > >>>> > > >>>>I cant wait to wait and see... > > >>>> > > >>>>You dont want none of me bro..u cried and complained last time i got > >on > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>ur > > >> > > >> > > >>>>ass and u BEGGED me to leave you alone... then i agreed to leave you > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>alone > > >> > > >> > > >>>>but even that > > >>>>wasnt good enuff.... > > >>>> > > >>>>You want some more timberpup??? > > >>>> > > >>>>No one can count on you for NOTHING..... > > >>>>You were asked to cover the news for the HHT and you couldnt even do > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>that > > >> > > >> > > >>>>without Whining. > > >>>> > > >>>>Something doesnt go your way you don;t stand up and fight for what u > > >>>>believe in... > > >>>> > > >>>>You "take ur ball and go home" > > >>>> > > >>>>I've watched you take a stand on an issue then back down and crumble > >in > > >>>>the light of Tradewars players opinions.... > > >>>>You have no back bone and i doubt you ever did... > > >>>>Your right abou one thing... > > >>>>I've played WELL for years without a .twa > > >>>> > > >>>>Sg > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: Timberwolf > > >>>> To: spaceghost@booinc.com > > >>>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:42 PM > > >>>> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> You don't give up, Space Bitch, do you? > > >>>> > > >>>> You have played well for years without a .twa file and just because > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>you > > >> > > >> > > >>>>made > > >>>> one up for grabs for HHT does not mean SD has to do it to. > > >>>> > > >>>> As for my opinion not mattering cuz I'm not a player..just wait and > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>see > > >> > > >> > > >>>>:P > > >>>> > > >>>> Timber > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: "space ghost" > > >>>> To: > > >>>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:51 PM > > >>>> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Wow u dont understand sarcasm a bit do ya??? > > >>>> > I'm about as sorry for posting on this subject as Phillip Morris is > > >>>>over > > >>>> Cancer Causing Cigerettes... > > >>>> > You keep trying to stop me from posting my opinion on your Lame > > >>>>Excuse of > > >>>> buckeling under peer pressure..... > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Keep your .twa file this year Silver... > > >>>> > Keep telling people how it isnt useful except to the Elite > > >>>> > And by all means keep writing the TwLeague Board Trying to get them > > >>>>to > > >>>> shut me up... > > >>>> > Keep telling people your reasons are you dont want the game over > > >>>>played > > >>>> and u want people to experience new edits and by all means keep > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>telling > > >> > > >> > > >>>> people all edits are released on the website..... > > >>>> > None of which will work......... > > >>>> > > > >>>> > You will just continue to look like an idiot for not releasing > > >>>>something > > >>>> to help out the smaller teams... > > >>>> > Lets keep the advantage in the Veterns Favor... > > >>>> > > > >>>> > It's already been pointed out that enuff edits have been released > >to > > >>>> generate one's own copy of the uso 03. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > And by all means..Keep being a Putz.... > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > >From a message by Silver Dragon about Re: Apology to Silver: > > >>>> > > I really dont know what to say. Space Ghost, I have always shown > > >>>>you > > >>>> respect and never once had an issue with you. I have never given you > > >>>>reason > > >>>> to mis trust me that I at least know of. And then over something as > > >>>>simple > > >>>> as this you go balistic and tried to single handedly ruin my game, > >rep > > >>>>and > > >>>> server all in one shot. Whats the deal? is there some deep dark > >secret > > >>>>or > > >>>> something I did that you have been holding inside? I dont know, ICQ > >me > > >>>> sometime let me know what this was really about it caught be mad > > >>>>surprise > > >>>> dude. I know you care deeply for the USO and so do I. Shrug > > >>>> > > Silver Dragon > > >>>> > > >From a message by Space Ghost about Apology to Silver: > > >>>> > > > First of all it seems i was wrong... > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > While my heart may have been in the right place > > >>>> > > releasing the .twa file on my own is not a good idea. > > >>>> > > Silver knows that teams who want to win will be running thier > > >>>> > > own private game with his settings with or with out the .twa > >file > > >>>> provided > > >>>> > > Further stating that i wasnt going to play was an even > > >>>> > > worse thing to say... > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > I have people who i promised i would devote time and resources > > >>>> to...they look to me for leadership and i am willing to squander the > > >>>>little > > >>>> bit of an advantage i can give my team???? i can provide my team > >with > > >>>>a > > >>>> private practice game..And Silver said it best,,,Not every team will > > >>>>have > > >>>> that advantage. > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > I have been admonished by veterns for giving away thier > > >>>> > > advantage!!!....After all we can't really expect that the > >veterns > > >>>>and > > >>>> the teams who want to play to win arent going to have thier own warm > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>up > > >> > > >> > > >>>> game on thier own servers....with the exact settings i was going to > > >>>>compose > > >>>> for them. > > >>>> > > Why make it easy for the compition?? > > >>>> > > They can see the edits same as me. > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > If i released a .twa file i would be giving away my teams > > >>>> advantage,,hell i would be giving away other people's advantage.... > > >>>>infact > > >>>> i would be making it easier for newbie teams to compete.. >there > > >>>>is > > >>>> goona be newbie teams> > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > So i won't be releasing the .twa file for uso... > > >>>> > > let the teams make thier own .twa > > >>>> > > I'll be running a private practice game for my team > > >>>> > > and to hell with worring about being fair. > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Let the veterns keep the adavantage > > >>>> > > This is obviously how everyone wants it. > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > So again i apologize to Silver Dragon... > > >>>> > > He knows more about what players want > > >>>> > > and i should not assume that i know better then him. > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > Space Ghost > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > --- > > >>>> > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> --- > > >>>> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>i > > >>> > > >>>_________________________________________________________________ > > >>>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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