Subj : Re: Apology to Silver To : All From : col sanders Date : Tue Jan 07 2003 04:45 pm Wow, heh, ditto Col Sanders Kemper3 wrote: >Let me get this straight... if given a large amount of time to plan, >a good player will beat a newbie immediately. However, this same >newbie who can't come up with a good strategy after 30 days of >planning will be able to rapidly adapt to adversity and come up with >a winning strategy faster than a good team? Also, this a tournament, >not the special olympics. Let those who aren't cut out for it play a >different game. > >On 7 Jan 2003 at 8:27, Timberwolf wrote: > > > >>what the file is gonna do is give certain players unfair advantages. >> >>Guys like yourself, Prestone, Kemper, etc are excellent strategists and game >>planners. >> >>This leaves newbie teams behind in the dust before the game even started. >> >>I would rather see a game baned with no edits announced at all. Just this >>simple words in this example: >> >>"5000 sectors, 750 turns, light edit ships, light edit planets" >> >>That's it. >> >>This forces everyone equally to figure out the edits for themselves, maybe >>even give a newbie team a fighting chance if they can figure out the edits >>quick enough. >> >>My problem, though, SG, is not you wanting the .twa file. It is how you >>handled the issue. Silver Dragon made a decision and he is sticking to his >>guns and he is hell a lot better than Bad girl with the emphasis on BAD as >>in bad moderator and game op. >> >>I doubt Silver Dragon is gonna hide anything cuz he sure as hell aint gonna >>drop the ball by doing a "babsy" in the USO. >> >>There's a word of the day for her. "Babsy" - ing up a major tournament >>with mid tourney changes and bad decision making.as Kav just mentioned. >> >>You gotta do what you gotta do. >> >>It is pointless to try and argue with you when we both are stubborn as a >>pair of jackasses like ourselves LOL. >> >>Timbewolf >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Space Ghost" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:44 PM >>Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver >> >> >> >> >>>timber >>> >>>do u even understand what this file does.. >>>how this file will be used ,,,, >>> >>>And why anyone playing this game SHOULD care wether or >>>not its released. >>> >>>I got no problem getting into this and explain to you my >>>position..But do you REALLY want to understand the issue? >>> >>>So far you have only shown ignorance on the matter..... >>>It is entirely possible this is my fault .. >>>It is entirely possible that i have yet again Flamed all >>>Meaning out of a subject....... >>> >>>I dont think you even want to understand what im saying at all... >>> >>>But to give you some meaning..maybe a nudge in the right direction why >>> >>> >>dont you re read my apology to Silver. >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Timberwolf >>> To: spaceghost@booinc.com >>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:16 PM >>> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver >>> >>> >>> >>> all right. There you go. You admit you played well for years without a >>> >>> >>.twa. >> >> >>> So why do you need one? >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Space Ghost" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:12 PM >>> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver >>> >>> >>> > >>> > ohhh what u gonna be a player there timber pup?? >>> > >>> > I cant wait to wait and see... >>> > >>> > You dont want none of me bro..u cried and complained last time i got >>> >>> >>on >> >> >>> ur ass and u BEGGED me to leave you alone... then i agreed to leave you >>> alone but even that >>> > wasnt good enuff.... >>> > >>> > You want some more timberpup??? >>> > >>> > No one can count on you for NOTHING..... >>> > You were asked to cover the news for the HHT and you couldnt even do >>> >>> >>that >> >> >>> without Whining. >>> > >>> > Something doesnt go your way you don;t stand up and fight for what u >>> believe in... >>> > >>> > You "take ur ball and go home" >>> > >>> > I've watched you take a stand on an issue then back down and crumble >>> >>> >>in >> >> >>> the light of Tradewars players opinions.... >>> > You have no back bone and i doubt you ever did... >>> > Your right abou one thing... >>> > I've played WELL for years without a .twa >>> > >>> > Sg >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: Timberwolf >>> > To: spaceghost@booinc.com >>> > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:42 PM >>> > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You don't give up, Space Bitch, do you? >>> > >>> > You have played well for years without a .twa file and just because >>> >>> >>you >> >> >>> made >>> > one up for grabs for HHT does not mean SD has to do it to. >>> > >>> > As for my opinion not mattering cuz I'm not a player..just wait and >>> >>> >>see >> >> >>> :P >>> > >>> > Timber >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "space ghost" >>> > To: >>> > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:51 PM >>> > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > Wow u dont understand sarcasm a bit do ya??? >>> > > I'm about as sorry for posting on this subject as Phillip Morris >>> >>> >>is >> >> >>> over >>> > Cancer Causing Cigerettes... >>> > > You keep trying to stop me from posting my opinion on your Lame >>> Excuse of >>> > buckeling under peer pressure..... >>> > > >>> > > Keep your .twa file this year Silver... >>> > > Keep telling people how it isnt useful except to the Elite >>> > > And by all means keep writing the TwLeague Board Trying to get >>> >>> >>them >> >> >>> to >>> > shut me up... >>> > > Keep telling people your reasons are you dont want the game over >>> played >>> > and u want people to experience new edits and by all means keep >>> >>> >>telling >> >> >>> > people all edits are released on the website..... >>> > > None of which will work......... >>> > > >>> > > You will just continue to look like an idiot for not releasing >>> something >>> > to help out the smaller teams... >>> > > Lets keep the advantage in the Veterns Favor... >>> > > >>> > > It's already been pointed out that enuff edits have been released >>> >>> >>to >> >> >>> > generate one's own copy of the uso 03. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > And by all means..Keep being a Putz.... >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >From a message by Silver Dragon about Re: Apology to Silver: >>> > > > I really dont know what to say. Space Ghost, I have always >>> >>> >>shown >> >> >>> you >>> > respect and never once had an issue with you. I have never given >>> >>> >>you >> >> >>> reason >>> > to mis trust me that I at least know of. And then over something as >>> simple >>> > as this you go balistic and tried to single handedly ruin my game, >>> >>> >>rep >> >> >>> and >>> > server all in one shot. Whats the deal? is there some deep dark >>> >>> >>secret >> >> >>> or >>> > something I did that you have been holding inside? I dont know, ICQ >>> >>> >>me >> >> >>> > sometime let me know what this was really about it caught be mad >>> surprise >>> > dude. I know you care deeply for the USO and so do I. Shrug >>> > > > Silver Dragon >>> > > > >From a message by Space Ghost about Apology to Silver: >>> > > > > First of all it seems i was wrong... >>> > > > >>> > > > While my heart may have been in the right place >>> > > > releasing the .twa file on my own is not a good idea. >>> > > > Silver knows that teams who want to win will be running thier >>> > > > own private game with his settings with or with out the .twa >>> >>> >>file >> >> >>> > provided >>> > > > Further stating that i wasnt going to play was an even >>> > > > worse thing to say... >>> > > > >>> > > > I have people who i promised i would devote time and resources >>> > to...they look to me for leadership and i am willing to squander >>> >>> >>the >> >> >>> little >>> > bit of an advantage i can give my team???? i can provide my team >>> >>> >>with >> >> >>> a >>> > private practice game..And Silver said it best,,,Not every team >>> >>> >>will >> >> >>> have >>> > that advantage. >>> > > > >>> > > > I have been admonished by veterns for giving away thier >>> > > > advantage!!!....After all we can't really expect that the >>> >>> >>veterns >> >> >>> and >>> > the teams who want to play to win arent going to have thier own >>> >>> >>warm up >> >> >>> > game on thier own servers....with the exact settings i was going to >>> compose >>> > for them. >>> > > > Why make it easy for the compition?? >>> > > > They can see the edits same as me. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > If i released a .twa file i would be giving away my teams >>> > advantage,,hell i would be giving away other people's advantage.... >>> infact >>> > i would be making it easier for newbie teams to compete..>> >>> >>there >> >> >>> is >>> > goona be newbie teams> >>> > > > >>> > > > So i won't be releasing the .twa file for uso... >>> > > > let the teams make thier own .twa >>> > > > I'll be running a private practice game for my team >>> > > > and to hell with worring about being fair. >>> > > > >>> > > > Let the veterns keep the adavantage >>> > > > This is obviously how everyone wants it. >>> > > > >>> > > > So again i apologize to Silver Dragon... >>> > > > He knows more about what players want >>> > > > and i should not assume that i know better then him. >>> > > > >>> > > > Space Ghost >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > --- >>> > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>> > > >>> > > >>> > --- >>> > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>> > --- >>> > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>> > >>> > >>> --- >>> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>>--- >>>[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > --- FEddy 1.4.03/modPHX * Origin: http://www.twgs.org -- THE Trade Wars web forum! 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