Subj : Re: Apology to Silver To : All From : col sanders Date : Tue Jan 07 2003 12:28 pm Uh, 2 points... 1. The people you mention, Kemper, Pres, etc... having an unfair advantage, how is being a superior strategist unfair? I think its part of the game... 2. As for a game being banged without the edits or settings being disclosed, I am doing that Thursday, see my earlier post. I think I gave away a wee bit more than you wanted, but not everything... Timberwolf wrote: >what the file is gonna do is give certain players unfair advantages. > >Guys like yourself, Prestone, Kemper, etc are excellent strategists and game >planners. > >This leaves newbie teams behind in the dust before the game even started. > >I would rather see a game baned with no edits announced at all. Just this >simple words in this example: > >"5000 sectors, 750 turns, light edit ships, light edit planets" > >That's it. > >This forces everyone equally to figure out the edits for themselves, maybe >even give a newbie team a fighting chance if they can figure out the edits >quick enough. > >My problem, though, SG, is not you wanting the .twa file. It is how you >handled the issue. Silver Dragon made a decision and he is sticking to his >guns and he is hell a lot better than Bad girl with the emphasis on BAD as >in bad moderator and game op. > >I doubt Silver Dragon is gonna hide anything cuz he sure as hell aint gonna >drop the ball by doing a "babsy" in the USO. > >There's a word of the day for her. "Babsy" - ing up a major tournament >with mid tourney changes and bad decision making.as Kav just mentioned. > >You gotta do what you gotta do. > >It is pointless to try and argue with you when we both are stubborn as a >pair of jackasses like ourselves LOL. > >Timbewolf >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Space Ghost" >To: >Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:44 PM >Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver > > > > >>timber >> >>do u even understand what this file does.. >>how this file will be used ,,,, >> >>And why anyone playing this game SHOULD care wether or >>not its released. >> >>I got no problem getting into this and explain to you my >>position..But do you REALLY want to understand the issue? >> >>So far you have only shown ignorance on the matter..... >>It is entirely possible this is my fault .. >>It is entirely possible that i have yet again Flamed all >>Meaning out of a subject....... >> >>I dont think you even want to understand what im saying at all... >> >>But to give you some meaning..maybe a nudge in the right direction why >> >> >dont you re read my apology to Silver. > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Timberwolf >> To: spaceghost@booinc.com >> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:16 PM >> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver >> >> >> >> all right. There you go. You admit you played well for years without a >> >> >.twa. > > >> So why do you need one? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Space Ghost" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:12 PM >> Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver >> >> >> > >> > ohhh what u gonna be a player there timber pup?? >> > >> > I cant wait to wait and see... >> > >> > You dont want none of me bro..u cried and complained last time i got >> >> >on > > >> ur ass and u BEGGED me to leave you alone... then i agreed to leave you >> alone but even that >> > wasnt good enuff.... >> > >> > You want some more timberpup??? >> > >> > No one can count on you for NOTHING..... >> > You were asked to cover the news for the HHT and you couldnt even do >> >> >that > > >> without Whining. >> > >> > Something doesnt go your way you don;t stand up and fight for what u >> believe in... >> > >> > You "take ur ball and go home" >> > >> > I've watched you take a stand on an issue then back down and crumble >> >> >in > > >> the light of Tradewars players opinions.... >> > You have no back bone and i doubt you ever did... >> > Your right abou one thing... >> > I've played WELL for years without a .twa >> > >> > Sg >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Timberwolf >> > To: spaceghost@booinc.com >> > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:42 PM >> > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver >> > >> > >> > >> > You don't give up, Space Bitch, do you? >> > >> > You have played well for years without a .twa file and just because >> >> >you > > >> made >> > one up for grabs for HHT does not mean SD has to do it to. >> > >> > As for my opinion not mattering cuz I'm not a player..just wait and >> >> >see > > >> :P >> > >> > Timber >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "space ghost" >> > To: >> > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:51 PM >> > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Apology to Silver >> > >> > >> > > >> > > Wow u dont understand sarcasm a bit do ya??? >> > > I'm about as sorry for posting on this subject as Phillip Morris >> >> >is > > >> over >> > Cancer Causing Cigerettes... >> > > You keep trying to stop me from posting my opinion on your Lame >> Excuse of >> > buckeling under peer pressure..... >> > > >> > > Keep your .twa file this year Silver... >> > > Keep telling people how it isnt useful except to the Elite >> > > And by all means keep writing the TwLeague Board Trying to get >> >> >them > > >> to >> > shut me up... >> > > Keep telling people your reasons are you dont want the game over >> played >> > and u want people to experience new edits and by all means keep >> >> >telling > > >> > people all edits are released on the website..... >> > > None of which will work......... >> > > >> > > You will just continue to look like an idiot for not releasing >> something >> > to help out the smaller teams... >> > > Lets keep the advantage in the Veterns Favor... >> > > >> > > It's already been pointed out that enuff edits have been released >> >> >to > > >> > generate one's own copy of the uso 03. >> > > >> > > >> > > And by all means..Keep being a Putz.... >> > > >> > > >> > > >From a message by Silver Dragon about Re: Apology to Silver: >> > > > I really dont know what to say. Space Ghost, I have always >> >> >shown > > >> you >> > respect and never once had an issue with you. I have never given >> >> >you > > >> reason >> > to mis trust me that I at least know of. And then over something as >> simple >> > as this you go balistic and tried to single handedly ruin my game, >> >> >rep > > >> and >> > server all in one shot. Whats the deal? is there some deep dark >> >> >secret > > >> or >> > something I did that you have been holding inside? I dont know, ICQ >> >> >me > > >> > sometime let me know what this was really about it caught be mad >> surprise >> > dude. I know you care deeply for the USO and so do I. Shrug >> > > > Silver Dragon >> > > > >From a message by Space Ghost about Apology to Silver: >> > > > > First of all it seems i was wrong... >> > > > >> > > > While my heart may have been in the right place >> > > > releasing the .twa file on my own is not a good idea. >> > > > Silver knows that teams who want to win will be running thier >> > > > own private game with his settings with or with out the .twa >> >> >file > > >> > provided >> > > > Further stating that i wasnt going to play was an even >> > > > worse thing to say... >> > > > >> > > > I have people who i promised i would devote time and resources >> > to...they look to me for leadership and i am willing to squander >> >> >the > > >> little >> > bit of an advantage i can give my team???? i can provide my team >> >> >with > > >> a >> > private practice game..And Silver said it best,,,Not every team >> >> >will > > >> have >> > that advantage. >> > > > >> > > > I have been admonished by veterns for giving away thier >> > > > advantage!!!....After all we can't really expect that the >> >> >veterns > > >> and >> > the teams who want to play to win arent going to have thier own >> >> >warm up > > >> > game on thier own servers....with the exact settings i was going to >> compose >> > for them. >> > > > Why make it easy for the compition?? >> > > > They can see the edits same as me. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > If i released a .twa file i would be giving away my teams >> > advantage,,hell i would be giving away other people's advantage.... >> infact >> > i would be making it easier for newbie teams to compete..> >> >there > > >> is >> > goona be newbie teams> >> > > > >> > > > So i won't be releasing the .twa file for uso... >> > > > let the teams make thier own .twa >> > > > I'll be running a private practice game for my team >> > > > and to hell with worring about being fair. >> > > > >> > > > Let the veterns keep the adavantage >> > > > This is obviously how everyone wants it. >> > > > >> > > > So again i apologize to Silver Dragon... >> > > > He knows more about what players want >> > > > and i should not assume that i know better then him. >> > > > >> > > > Space Ghost >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --- >> > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> > > >> > > >> > --- >> > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> > --- >> > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> > >> > >> --- >> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>--- >>[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> >> >> >> > > > > --- FEddy 1.4.03/modPHX * Origin: http://www.twgs.org -- THE Trade Wars web forum! 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