Subj : Re: Lethal Lotto To : All From : Dark Helmet Date : Sat Jan 04 2003 06:38 pm Shouldn't the Lotto belong to RR and/or the members of the Current Wolfpack when Jackal passed away? I know that RR and Jackal lived close together and had become friends. I don't think that the game/ concept should be open to be picked up by just anybody. It was/is a unique concept that was started by a man that has passed on. It is just a respect kinda thing. The same should/would be said about contributions that Lisa made before she tradigically passed away. DH >From: "Father Cajone" >To: dh_supreme@hotmail.com >Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: Lethal Lotto >Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:49:32 -0500 > >I believe River Rat should be contacted regarding Lethal Lotto. We had >several contacts at the time of Jackal's passing and he had been in the >hospital while Jackal was there. River Rat at that time had indicated he >would take on Lethal Lotto in order to ensure its continuation and at this >time is still of that opinion. He will likely need help setting it up in a >manner that makes it a true lotto style game. It appeared to me that last >year's teams were not truly random as more senior players were in corp CEO >positions than should have been. Of course one of the options would be for >volunteer CEO's with a random assignment of players....dunno folks! > > >From a message by col sanders about Re: Lethal Lotto: > > If Pagan runs the Lethal Lotto, I will play a fully lotto style game. I >will not be able to dedicate any more time to it than I have been able >to most games in the last year. But what the heck, I am still better >than a green newbie. I am not sure if I want to play a Mentor Lotto, as >that would require me to actually dedicate time to teaching stuff. Full >lotto yes, mento lotto no. Thats just for me, I do think both are good >ideas and wish you well with your game. > >Col Sanders > >feral wrote: > > >Hi Pagan, > > I believe the Lethal Lotto should run somewhere. Sure their are >critics, but they have the option not to play. The Lethal Lotto is open to >ALL players, but the game I propose is for some of the better players to >take some unknowns into a game against other teams led by the better >players. So the two are different. Maybe call my idea the "TW Mentor Lotto" >or something. Anyway I guess the next step would be, considering you >offered the use of your server, would be to poll some of the "Better" >players to see if they are willing to commit their time to make this work. >You are the only person who has responded in a postive manner regarding >this. Thanks for your interest. > > > >Feral > > > > > > > > > >>From a message by pagan about Re: Lethal Lotto: > > > > > >>You guys both have great ideas... and I am willing to bet we can get it >to happen. At least you are both telling me that the mid-ranks are an area >we can focus on, and that I am not crazy! (I had 3 other servers express an >interest in participating in an "underleague" round robin format play, but >have not heard back to see what settings etc. they want. I can go ahead and >set up a 1-2 week game, but would rather have it come from several sysops >working together.) > >> > >> > > > > > > Lethal Lotto or any kind of blind draw can be very interesting.. I am >very willing to work with anyone who wants to do this, either as a player >or as a game designer, and will make my standalone server available (much >as I did with Galactic Chaos for Ender.) *If* we do a Lethal Lotto, I would >like to see it changed to Jackal's Lethal Lotto, or in some way honor his >contribution to the game. > > > > > > It isn't that I have a huge amount of time, it is more that I see this >intermediate group as the elite class of the future. Yeah, their rears will >be smeared with fig marks from the elites now and they may never be the >best players, but if we can do a game or two or even three with the elites >mixed in, it will go far to increase participation in the game. Scary, but >it would be awesome to have a league or tourney game with more than just >the standard 20 people playing, don't you think? > > > > > > Vader, Feral.. what do you think the next step could be? > > > > > > Pagan > > > Stardock Omega > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From a message by Vader about Lethal Lotto: > > > > Someone really needs to run this game. Its one of the better ideas >out there. > > > > > > > > >From a message by fuseblown about Re:Maybe a new game idea: > > > > > Lethal Lotto did that, teams were drawn randomly from a pool of >60 > > > > players...not sure if anyone is going to run it this year since >Jackal has > > > > passed away though. :( > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "feral" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 12:12 PM > > > > Subject: [twgsdotorg] Maybe a new game idea > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After following this forum for a good while, I've noticed >that most of > > > > the "top" players complain of a lack of interest in the game or a >lack of > > > > "different" competitors. Some have posted "help sites" or have >written > > > > articles to help newer players with general game knowledge and >basic > > > > tactics. While these are of tremendous help to the newer/unknown >players, > > > > they are not going to bring these players up to the "upper levels" >of play. > > > > > I also noticed that some of the players who post here state >that they > > > > only play in tourneys. The average/unknown players are not likely >to get the > > > > chance to play along side any of the "top" players because they >tend to > > > > travel in "elite" groups and basically corp with players of >similiar skill > > > > levels and/or only play in tourneys. > > > > > I wonder if any of the "top" players have an interest in >taking a > > > > corp of unknowns into a game. Basically what I am proposing is >letting some > > > > of us unknowns sign up, and get randomly assigned to one of the >"top" > > > > players. Let one of the "top" players assess the skill level and >game > > > > knowledge of the players assigned to them and organize their corps > > > > accordingly. Maybe give 10 days on a practice game to each corp to >work out > > > > details and provide guidance and training to it's members. Then run >a game > > > > and let the battles begin, may the best corp win. however, I >wouldlike to > > > > see the CEO/Mentor only have partial turns so he could not carry >the load, > > > > so to speak. > > > > > If this idea has been brought up before, forgive me, I must >have missed > > > > it. I'm not sure if any of the "top" players have the time, >inclination, or > > > > the patience for something like this. But, I believe playing along >side some > > > > of the "top" players and getting "in game guidance" would be much >more > > > > beneficial to the "unknown"players than trying to read up on a >tactic and > > > > trying to implement it in a game where there are "top" players >playing. So > > > > all the talk about the game dying to lack of interest..etc.. Here >is a > > > > chance or opportunity to make an impact on some of the "hopefully" >future up > > > > and coming players. Sorry for being so long winded.... > > > > > > > > > > Feral > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --- FEddy 1.4.03/modPHX * Origin: http://www.twgs.org -- THE Trade Wars web forum! (1:229/522.0) .