Subj : NASA, shuttle, anyone?
To   : TOM WALKER
From : CHARLES ANGELICH
Date : Tue Aug 23 2005 11:44 pm

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Hello Tom - 

CA>> If QA and management are not capable of doing QA and
CA>> management they should be replaced. I've done both and I
CA>> guarantee you it would be _extremely_ difficult for anyone
CA>> to neglect their responsibilities and pass off junk welds
CA>> (or any other potentially hazardous mistakes) if I was
CA>> doing the QA/management there. 

TW> NO one3 can tell what junk lies under a Perfect Final Pass.
TW> And i nthe case of the Ship Null Plates XRAYING ever inch
TW> of weld in not possable as a practical mattwer. 

We 'pulled' welds apart to test their strength(s). If you begin
by certifying the people doing the welding it gives you a 'good
start'. :-) 

TW>>> It is all a matter of Work Ethic and Honesty. And we have
TW>>> produced a population having the LOWEST Work Ethic and
TW>>> Honesty in the History of this Country in oue Wrok force. 

CA>> I don't agree. Where I have worked people don't start out
CA>> being careless but they _do_ become careless if they think
CA>> that their best efforts won't be notice/appreciated by QA
CA>> and management. 

TW> ThAT IS A PERSONNAL Character FLAW. NO mater what
TW> management does or dsoen't do an HONEST person will do
TW> their best. IT is al lthais LIBERAL BULL CRAP that they
TW> have been fed over many recent generations tht says that IF
TW> you don't get "Stroked" to yuor satisfaction that is is
TW> Alragut to do a Poor job or even sabatoge the project. 

That argument sounds logical but people are not machines and do
react to their environment. An 'I don't care' management can
seed that attitude down to the people under them. 

TW>>> BUT the CRY is that you Absolutly cannot Teach Moral
TW>>> issues. 

CA>> It can be taught, I've done it many times. Those who
CA>> refuse to change can be gotten rid of and replaced. 

TW> NOT in any UNION shop I have come across. 

That is American folklore. I've been a member of the AFL/CIO,
the UAW, the Patternmakers of Greater Detroit, and some office
union more recently and I can guarantee you people _can_ be
gotten rid of. It's just lazy spineless managers who aren't
willing to do what is required to get the bums out of the
workforce. 

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