Subj : NASA, shuttle, anyone? To : TOM WALKER From : CHARLES ANGELICH Date : Mon Aug 22 2005 10:46 pm 123c7222b3fd tech Hello Tom - --8<--cut CA>> I really tend to place the blame with management more than CA>> with the bottom rung technicians though. TW> YES and NO. How many timjes have the Bottom Level machainc TW> screwed up and COVERED it up?? LOTS more trhyen we want ot TW> talk about. Inm those Cases, Like the Welders layering TW> welding rod to finish their passes faster is WWII. IT TW> happens and there is NO WAY the QA people OR Management can TW> do anything about it when it happens. If QA and management are not capable of doing QA and management they should be replaced. I've done both and I guarantee you it would be _extremely_ difficult for anyone to neglect their responsibilities and pass off junk welds (or any other potentially hazardous mistakes) if I was doing the QA/management there. TW> It is all a matter of Work Ethic and Honesty. And we have TW> produced a population having the LOWEST Work Ethic and TW> Honesty in the History of this Country in oue Wrok force. I don't agree. Where I have worked people don't start out being careless but they _do_ become careless if they think that their best efforts won't be notice/appreciated by QA and management. TW> BUT the CRY is that you Absolutly cannot Teach Moral issues. It can be taught, I've done it many times. Those who refuse to change can be gotten rid of and replaced. > > , , > o/ Charles.Angelich \o , > <| |> __o/ > / > USA, MI < \ __\__ --- * ATP/16bit 2.31 * .... DOS the Ghost in the Machine! http://www.devedia.com/dosghost/ * Origin: Try Our Web Based QWK: DOCSPLACE.ORG (1:123/140) .