Subj : 100/66 MHz fsb To : Jim Holsonback From : James Bradley Date : Fri May 06 2005 01:07 am 05-04-05 12:43, Jim Holsonback told James Bradley about 100/66 MHz fsb How do, Jim? JH> I've done a little research on the SaintSong EPC-1. I appreciate that, Jim. As you now see - unless they hired a *real* translator, and move from Tiawan - they tend to bamboozle their way through quite a bit. -=> on 05-02-05 21:05, JAMES BRADLEY wrote to JIM HOLSONBACK <=- JB> Maybe you'd know: 100 fsb/socket 370 will take me to a JB> !!!/Celeron 800, or a VIA 900MHz? I keep getting mushy info JB> Hmmm... The best I've gathered, is the VIA will run the MB @ 100, and JB> the Intel products drop the speed to 66. The only thing that came with JB> the docs, was it will run a 466M CPU or above. From my previous JB> research, I garnered the 800M Intel, and a 900M VIA CPU was the last JB> 370 produced for a 66/100M fsb. JH> I found in "Q&A" at their website - JH> Espresso currently supports PIII up to 700, 66MHz Celeron to 733, or JH> 750 MHz VIA C3. _But_ I found elsewhere on internet a writeup where JH> they were offering it with a PIII-800. Like you say, perhaps dependanding on the rev.# on the MB... I know when I first landed the rig, I did quite a bit of research on it, and a definitive source mentioned the 800M/900M limits. I'm pretty sure it wasn't just some Joe selling one on Ebay. Either the file disapeared with my partition scramble, (The LAST time I trust C:\My Docs!) or it's hiding somewhere in a zip/pdf. JH> Support of faster chips _may_ have to do with board and BIOS JH> revisions. For example, I rechecked, and have here an Asus MEW-AM JH> board. The original version of the board supported only 66 Mhz Celerons JH> up to 533MHz, but starting with Board Rev. 1.02 and BIOS 1003.004, it JH> would support 100 MHz chips, up to Celeron 1100 and P3-850. I don't recall seeing anything about the MB being updated on it, but like I say, being from Tiawan... Given my last research timeframe... Given the phase of the moon, and the hight of the tides... JH> Still talking off top of my head - I don't remember if you said what JH> CPU is in there now. One consideration _might_ be memory speed. The JH> Asus board here has jumpers which can set for 66Mhz cpu and 100Mhz JH> memory, but not vice-versa. So if your existing SODIMM memory is PC66, JH> that might not work with cpu upgraded to 100Mhz. I'll be... I've been running a "133A" chip. (At least that's what it says on the paper sticker.) That shouldn't cause any problems by running it at a lower rate, should it? Gone are the days when the last number silkscreened on the ceramic designated the speed? JB> The manufacturer is SaintSong (One word.) System model is EPC-I JH> It _is_ a cute little thing. :-) Did you get the docking station with JH> it? ....All in one box! It was *really* handy to set up next to the bed-du-jour. I was a little jealous about the DVD dock, (Mine came with the CD/floppy) but I found a good enough deal on an external DVD burner just last year. I still don't have a bootable DVD setup, (USB boot doesn't seem to like the DVD format, or doesn't recognize it... ) I had to fudge a little with it to get RH to find it, (Mounting /dev/cdrom, and cdrom1 first seemed to do it.) but MEPIS was a little brain dead on the USB front. JB> The MB, I know is by Intel, with an 810 vid. built in. JH> I think not likely. Intel sold the 810 chips to a number of board JH> makers, like the Asus here. Again, I'll have to dig around. Somewhere told me it was an Intel MB. JB> microscope. ;-) The HD went South on it, so the next buck is going to JB> be spent on that. JH> Ouch! Looks like time to go to Ebay and look for a 2.5" drive. Ya... One of the *few* HDs I purchased new, and FRAP! I was informed they don't use actuators any more, so reseating a spring isn't going to fix it.... (Actuator slammin' then SMART tells me to "BACK UP NOW!" or somesuch.) JH> Sorry no definitive answers from here. Have you email contacted their JH> Tech support and asked them? I couldn't rightly tell you. Just before I lost my gratis ISP account, I had *just* purchased the HD and SODIMM. The CPU was a payback from a friend, (466M Celeron) so I just ran with that until something better availed itself, and I could gather a more definitive answer. JH> support@saintsong.com.tw So I stopped by at the library on my way to an appointment, logged onto the ebay registered email account to see what the HDs are selling for. After that I go looking for the Sterling page on james_bradley. Pasword failure! Reset the password, and *that* doesn't work. Reset again, and the ebay @canada account goes MIA! If this is the age of Aquarius, I can't wait for it to *end!* Thanks again for your efforts, Jim! Like I say, the info is more a curiosity at this time, and intended as "If it's available to your recall." As soon as I sues out a HD, and pay off one more debt, I should be able to put more grunt into the research. .... Money won't guarantee happiness, but it calms the nerves. French Prov. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: -=-= Calgary Organization (403) 242-3221 (1:134/77) .