Subj : Freebies To : JIM HOLSONBACK From : Roy J. Tellason Date : Tue May 03 2005 09:06 pm JIM HOLSONBACK wrote in a message to ROY J. TELLASON: JH> Hi, Roy. -=> on 05-01-05 20:06, ROY J. TELLASON wrote to JIM HOLSONBACK <=- RJT> JIM HOLSONBACK wrote in a message to ROY J. TELLASON: JH> < > RJT> I have several ATX boards here waiting for cases. That one you sent my RJT> way with the busted caps has been fixed, JH> I disremember what model that was - - IF resoldering down that JH> leaning Cap works, They all three busted, and no, I didn't resolder them, I just replaced all of them. The wire broke off too close to the cap... JH> and IF the chipset is Intel 440BX, Looks like 3-4 of the chips on there are marked "PCISET" along with Intel, whatever that tells us. JH> it should support 100 FSB and up to 450 MHz or so. You may have JH> to change a jumper to get it to do 100 FSB. RJT> and I have at least 3-4 others as well. JH> Woohoo! And you are waiting to test them out real soon - - -?? I was just checking out that Dell box yesterday and want to see what's in those other two I just got, the HP and the Compaq. JH> You got PII cpu's for 'em? Actually a couple of the ATX boards are Socket 7, had P200s in 'em when I got 'em, except for one that doesn't have any CPU in it. I get this stuff sorted out and I'll know better what I have and what I need. I sure do seem to have a bunch of Socket 7 boards, too, and wouldn't mind finding some faster chips for those. The local junk place had a K6-500 that I might go for, when I get back to having some money again, ferinstance. JH> I have a boxful of PII-350's, if any of yours will support 100FSB JH> processors. That Dell had a 333 in it. Dunno what it supports offhand. JH> Otherwise, they would run at only 233 due to the locked clock JH> multiplier. Hmm. RJT> I dunno, I'll have to look. That board with the caps has a CPU with RJT> it, riveted heatsink with fan on one end, long part number with no RJT> speed apparent- 80523PY3350512PE SL2U3 - I'm guessing that's a 350. JH> Sounds like I sent you one from that boxfull - That's it. PII 350 JH> with 512 cache. Yeah, I did get that one from you, come to think of it. JH> Slowest of the PII chips with 100 FSB, but good for testing, due JH> to the _low_ cost to me and thee. RJT> Got one other board here with a 450. Also a couple of Socket 7 boards RJT> in ATX, probably 3 or so of them, with I think P200s in 'em. JH> Unless you check those Socket 7 boards out and find you have boards JH> or faster chips than 200 which can work in them, (maybe at least in JH> the 400 range), I think not much need to save them. IMO a good ATX JH> case and PS can be of good value for upgrading - - If I get some extra cases maybe I'll use 'em, and if I can find some faster chips that'd be nice... RJT> The Dell I just got a hold of not long ago I finally got around RJT> to firing up last night and it has a P-II 333 in it. I haven't RJT> looked at the Compaq and HP yet. JH> That 333 was a real 'cadillac' in its day, being the fastest PII JH> which some of the early 66MHz PII boards would support. It was JH> based on 0.25 micron mask, had lower core voltage than the earlier JH> models, and used less power than even the original PII-233 (23.7W JH> vs 34.8W). BIR last one of those I bought was about $18, and I JH> passed it along to my friend at cost for him to upgrade a system JH> which he had passed on to his uncle or some other relative. I JH> haven't shopped lately - I guess PII-333 are now going for $5 or JH> less, for sure. (I'd guess for less). RJT> Looks like the Celeron box I'm currently using with linux *may* perform RJT> better if I stuck that 450 in there, but I need to see how the board RJT> the 450 is currently in compares with the one the Celeron is currently RJT> sitting in, which is limited to 384MB of ram by design. Lots of stuff RJT> to figure out here... JH> Are the 450 and the Celeron the Same package? A PII450 should be JH> Slot 1. Celeron 433 and slower were available for Slot 1, and JH> Celeron 300 up to 433 were also available for Socket 370. Celeron JH> 466 up to 1.4GHz were only available for Socket 370. Even where in JH> the same package, not all mainboards would support all speeds. Yeah, same package, and I know that board supports a P-II, I remember looking that up on intel's site. I don't understand why it only supports up to 384MB of ram, though. --- * Origin: TANSTAAFL BBS 717-838-8539 (1:270/615) .