Subj : FNOS FTP TCP/IP
To   : Charles Angelich
From : Michel Samson
Date : Fri Sep 22 2000 01:18 pm

Hi Charles,
 
     About "Fnos Ftp Tcp/Ip" of September 9:
 
HE> ...X/Y/Zmodem are still available.  ...(epppd + tcpport + conex)
HE> over ppp.  It was a bit slow, but it worked.
CA> Michel Samson had extremely mixed results when using his slower 8088
CA> system but much better results on his `386SX.  I am of the opinion
CA> that BBS should use FTP...  ...close enough to zmodem speed...
 
     I've been away for quite a long time but be assured i'm still very
pleased when i'm able to read from you!  I have no choice but to attend
to other matters (so to speak), i'm sorry i won't be ready for any form
of sustained `FidoNet' activity before some time and you can be certain
that i miss this hobby a lot...  It was so comforting to find that you,
Howard and other guys do remain attracted to this field, when i finally
got back to my past where-abouts yesterday, i couldn't resist the urge
for a quick one-time intervention - i wish to express a warm salute!
 
                                  :-)
 
[...]
 
     In respect to this echo's topic, i have to concur when it comes to
the opinion that ~FTP~ seems to be a suitable file tranfer protocol and
i might add that it will work for all BBSers, INCLUDING "LEGACY USERS".
I've seen your comment about the `WC' BBSes and their cripled `Kermit'
protocol, or the need for some `ZMoDem' via ~TelNet~ tuneup...  i concur
again!  Sad to say but i'm pretty sure that the late frenzy for `Linux'
(after those for the `Win 3.1x/9x' wave), euh...  well, it's all killing
one's hope for any fresh addition to the 16-bit DOS world, relatively to
~TelNet~ `ZMoDem'/`Kermit' capable terminal emulation programs, that is.
It appears so few efforts were made on the BBS software side, during the
last months, i'm forced to conclude that nothing may ever be done about
the ~TelNet~ client side!  Nobody will review the `MS-Kermit v3.15' code
to add `ZMoDem', nor is `TextWin' going to have its `ZMoDem' code put to
real work (appart `RLogin' sessions)!  I thought i'd test programs like
`Communique', `Panther Pro', `Terminate', ect. for the ~BIOS INT-14~ or
~NASI/NCSI~ interfaces but i guess no new/suitable 16-bit DOS ~TelNet~
client can ever be hoped for.  I'm using `Anzio v11.4w' with `TCPPort' &
`EPPPd' right now, it DownLoads a 1M9 .QWK message-packet at 1K56 cps on
a 486 DX-33 using a plain old internal 14K4 bps MoDem and yet, UpLoading
using `ZMoDem' can be a problem here too...  The only alternative that i
foresee would be to give BBSers the choice of `RLogin'/`TelNet' sessions
so that they can try their chance with `TextWin', to the least!...  %-)
 
[...]
 
     Hummm...  Anyway.  Before i finish, here is a comment i would have
made about the processor-dependant results when using `EPPPd'/`TCPPort'/
`Conex' for doing `Zmodem' over ~TelNet~ file transfers:  i've gathered,
from observation, that the DOS version and terminal emulator ought to be
quite "lightweight" since there's no "lighter" `EPPPd'/`TCPPort' version
around to play with:  the later are available as-is;  hence, the focus
on the DOS versions and terminal emulator instead.  Using DOS v3.3 gives
me an edge for my 8088 "legacy" PCs but `Conex' still feels too heavy a
task-load.  `{Commo}' would have made a great ~TelNet~ `ZMoDem'/`Kermit'
capable terminal emulation program for "legacy" users, providing that a
bit of code-tweaking can be made;  only, it's a shame we were left with
version 7.7 since the fall of 1998!...  `Pather Pro' and `TeleMate' seem
quite frale, the registered version of programs such as `Communique' is
the only thing that would work in other cases (if i recall correctly),
`Terminate' was way too big and slow when i tried, etc.  Well, in short,
i can see that "legacy" users have been left behind long ago and there's
no prospect of a better future for them (after all, the source-code for
`MS-Kermit' and `TextWin' has been around for awhile)!...  :'-(  Anyway.
 
[...]
 
     At least, ~TelNet~ `ZMoDem' DownLoads seem operational, overall...
 
                                  %->
 
     I can be patient and i'll try to keep an eye on `FidoNet's related
echoes, from time to time, in case something new happens...  I miss the
Baldwin, Williams and others but what can i say?  I can no longer follow
the hurd myself!...  In any case, i wish you the best!  Have fun!!!  8-)
 
                                                  Best salutations,
 
                                                  Michel Samson
 
 
....Posted to `FidoNet' using DOS 16-bit ~TelNet~ "legacy" technology!...
 

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