Subj : [--- FNOS FTP TCP/IP ---] To : WSMITH From : CHARLES ANGELICH Date : Thu Sep 07 2000 08:39 pm 1230d304b566 tcpip Hello Wsmith,- >> like Telix, etc.? If they, and I assume you mean your gateway >> server, want you to use FTP, why isn't it on the menu? If they >> don't want you to download binary files at all, why are you trying >> to? WS> I didn't know FTP --COULD-- be on a modem gateway. I assumed that WS> TCP/IP formed the connection and that FTP was just a series of WS> commands issued from your desktop. I keep getting the impression that you are referring to your ISP (Information Service Provider) as a `modem gateway'. Are you connecting from home via a dialup service that connects you to the internet or some other arrangement? FTP (File Transfer Protocol) is what it says - transfer of files to or from another system plus listing of directories and even deleting files from those directories if you have the privilege of doing so. All via a network which _can_ be the Internet but can be any network that has an FTP server. Your FTP app would be the client to that server. WS> I assumed that things had gone LAN by now? Not sure what you mean by LAN but both FTP and telnet are for use over a network which _can_ be the Internet but can also be an intranet (in-house network). WS> Here is the situation. The BBS that I am on now has dropped his WS> modem line. I am trying to preserve my traditional use of the BBS. This is what prompted me to begin setting up and using an ISP and connecting to BBS via the Internet. 8) WS> When I enter the files section, the BBS displays a banner asking WS> me to FTP to port 22. I assume that TELNET BBSes now want to use WS> FTP. No, _some_ use FTP server software for file transfer but not _all_ BBS do it that way. Many continue to offer x/y/zmodem, kermit, and other protocols that have been used by direct dialup (POTS) line BBS in the past. WS> I know nothing about using FTP from a PC, or about TELNET only WS> BBSes. Telnet replaces the telephone line with TCP/IP connections and requires software that can do that. Other than that the BBS looks and operates much the same if not identical to what you saw when using direct dialup connections. WS> I do not know --WHAT-- the people at the modem server want! If you have an ISP and can connect to it you have 2/3 of the problem solved. All you need is the appropriate FTP, HTTP, or telnet apps to do the rest of it. 8) WS> I would rather use the telephone, but, alas, the Sysops don't WS> want to anymore! I am trying to find a method to stay in touch. This is totally doable once we overcome the terminology problem and understand what you do have and what you don't have. If I can do it on an old 8086 XT you can do it too. WS> If all I can do in the future is leave messages, and I have to WS> drop file activity, so be it. I can use the "sneaker net"; I can WS> use floppy mailers; I can go to user group "set up" nights; I can WS> go to university clubs. I am just trying to "tread water". The situation is not that bad at all. In fact, once you get setup and understand what needs to be done you will find that you have 100s of BBS to call again just as before with the minor speed bump of connection to the Internet and then all is as before (or very similar). 8) WS> We are below ten BBSes in Boston and rapidly falling. We lost two WS> "super" boards and three regular boards over the summer. We have WS> one Telegard BBS, three WildCat! BBSes, two FirstClass BBSes, one WS> PC-BOARD BBS, and one Synchronet. This is from a high total of WS> 350 boards in 1995. (One BBS is run by the electric company, WS> another is run by the police department, a third is run by a WS> supermarket. We have three or four BBSes run by private Sysops.) Once you can connect via the Internet time and distance become unimportant and you can chose BBS from any country in the world as your `favorite' BBS. I have used a BBS over 1000 miles away on a regular basis and one of the other people who uses this same BBS is even further away another 1000 miles from me! Don't get discouraged by my lack of understanding what you need. What you want is being done every day we just need to get you the right apps and configuration and you will have few problems after that. > > , , > o/ Charles.Angelich \o , > <| AngelFirecom |> __o/ > / > USA, MI < \ __\__ --- * ATP/16bit 2.31 * .... Composed for you - on an 6/12mhz `286 with 1meg using DOS 16bit telnet. * Origin: Eastpointe Amiga (1:120/228) .