Subj : [--- FNOS FTP TCP/IP ---] To : Winston Smith From : Howard Eisenberger Date : Thu Sep 07 2000 01:02 pm -=> WINSTON SMITH wrote to HOWARD EISENBERGER <=- HE> What program are you using as your TIP dialer? WS> FNOS 17B, this program has a TIP dialer with dialing under script WS> control built right into it. (e.g. ".DIL", "PONYS.DIL", WS> et cetera.... ) HE> Sounds interesting. What else can you do from the server prompt? WS> I'm not exactly sure. I'll see if I can get you a screen capture WS> of the commands list. Got it. No FTP. HE> If all you can do is standard telnet (port 23), then you HE> can try downloading files using x/y/zmodem (or Kermit) on HE> the bbs and on your PC (in the terminal program) over the HE> telnet connection between the gateway and the bbs. WS> Umm... I tried that already. I believe they want files to go WS> through FTP so that file traffic can be properly logged. There is some WS> I/O lock where if the uploaded 8-bit datastream doesn't have the proper WS> handshake on it, the buffer is flushed and I/O is halted. Are you sure? Did you try it with a standard communications program like Telix, etc.? If they, and I assume you mean your gateway server, want you to use FTP, why isn't it on the menu? If they don't want you to download binary files at all, why are you trying to? WS> That is why WS> I wish more web sites and places has UUENCODED 7-bit ASCII data files, WS> because they can flow along with textual I/O, and you can reclaim the WS> files in pieces, just like with ZMODEM RESUME. (In fact, it would be WS> nice to have a UURESUME to restart a send a UU-Block PART ###. <* Sigh! *> ) That is also why I need an FTP client (unless I can talk everyone WS> into UUE-ing their file directories...). How do you access the Web? To use an FTP client on your computer you need a slip/ppp account. Alternately, you could use a shell account that you can telnet to, do your ftp from there, uuencode the files, and capture them in your comm program. Pretty crude and inefficient, but I've done it in the past. However, if your gateway server doesn't want you downloading binaries, I think it's a bit unethical. Aren't there any ISP's in Peabody? :-) Howard Eisenberger Ottawa, Canada .... DOS TCP/IP * -+- MultiMail/IBMPcDos v0.36 --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-1 * Origin: Mach2 Systems (1:342/3) .