Subj : [--- SLIP/PPP FTP ? ---]
To   : WINSTON SMITH
From : CHARLES ANGELICH
Date : Sat Sep 02 2000 05:34 pm

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Hello Winston - 

->>> The host BBS is doing the actual connect to the network for you
->>> using it's own resident apps. Does this sound accurate? 

->> Your earlier message said that you received a login message from
->> Synchronet (which you had referred to as BBS software?). Now you
say not. 

WS> The BBS is not connecting me to the network. I have to --REACH--
WS> the BBS --THROUGH-- the network. The BBS has no dialup. The BBS
WS> is at the terminus of my connection route. I login to the server
WS> and I address the BBS through the server. By "login", do you mean
WS> the act of making a connection whose activity is officially
WS> logged, or do you mean you must actually see a prompt stating
WS> "login:". 

Good point. There are many versions of `login'. 

WS> When I connect with FTP services, the log runs, it sends me a
WS> message, and it asks for USER and PASSword ACK's. It also sends a
WS> banner, the FTP message, but there is no "login" prompt. 

Technically the request for `user' and `password' would be a login of
sorts, yes. 

WS> Also, the modem pool server does prompt me for a login, but not
WS> with the word "login". So either I log in twice, I don't log in
WS> at all, or I log into one machine of your choosing and not the
WS> other, but I see no prompt saying "login" when I attempt to
WS> connect to either the modem pool server or to telnet to the FTP
WS> services port of the BBS. 

Generally, if you were to telnet to an FTP port you would be unable
to do a transfer because telnet does not `shift' into an FTP protocol
(none I've seen so far). 

WS> You tell me how you want me to say it and I'll say it the way you
WS> like it. As far as I can see, what one calls it is a matter of
WS> semantics.... 

Normally I would agree with you about the semantics but in this case
I'm tripping over the terminology trying to understand what your
connection requires of you. 

I would guess that if you could get the FTP07.ZIP file and use that
version of FTP for DOS it would be the easiest for you to use. It can
connect and allow manual entry of commands or be scripted, either
way. It's as fast as any I've tried so far. You don't a telnet
session first AFAIK. FTP07.ZIP is a WATTCP based application. You
will need to configure it to your system - not a big deal really. 

You would normally enter your email address as `user' and "anonymous"
as a password (unless you have a password for privileged access to
delete files etc.). 

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