Subj : test To : Chip Hearn From : Russell Tiedt Date : Thu Apr 29 2004 07:30 pm Hello Chip. 27 Apr 04 23:40, you wrote to me: RT>> I work as a representative for a small company, and tend to have RT>> a similar problem as yourself, this evening, my wifes brother has RT>> "arranged" that we go and visit, and then later phoned to say, RT>> "Please bring whatever you need to fix my computer, the nephew RT>> was there and it no longer works". So I sorta understand where RT>> you are coming from. Such happens more time than I care for. RT>> Such is life. :-) CH> Yeap... so, which is rude? I mean, would it be rude to turn down the CH> visit? Would it be rude to say you can't fix the computer for them? CH> Or, would it be rude to tell him that he will be charged a fee for you CH> to fix his computer, and that the visit/dinner is optional. ;) Hmm ... I wouldn't call it being rude, but I would agree that I am being taken advantage off. Being that he is my wife's brother makes it a bit difficult to tell him to "bugger off", on the other hand, in this case, should I have trouble with my car, and need help sorting it out, I intend to return the compliment, so to say, in full, and he had better deliver. :-)) <--> RT>> I don't want to particularly learn to program, but an RT>> understanding of some of the scripting languages, it seems, is a RT>> definite advantage when working with Linux. CH> I've needed something of that nature now, once in what... 12 some CH> years? I usually find another way. Well, I am comfortable with Linux, and I keep learning something new each day, still, but to some things, I want to do, I see no other way, possibly due to lack of or missing part of the "bigger picture". :-) <--> CH> Well, lets put something to the test here. You say that the 2 545mb CH> HD's had a problem. I say, 545 meg HD's are older than dirt, and its CH> no wonder they dont' work. They probably actually died 5+ years ago. CH> As for the 2.2 gig drives. I have tossed a bunch of those into the CH> trash. I personally don't even think theres a use for anything under 4 CH> gig's. And those HD's are getting to a point. See, understand, Hard CH> Drives do not last indefinetly. A constantly used drive might last 5 CH> years, but all that moving, all those seeks, reads, spinning, wears CH> drives out. I've done some crazy things to Hard Drives over the years CH> to get a bit more out of them. Drives that the heads have crashed on, CH> I've taken the controller card off and put on a drive that the CH> controller card has died... I've low level formatted drives to try to CH> fix some drives... it was all worthless... considering the prices CH> today of a 20 gig drive. The amount of labor and time spent to fix an CH> old 1 or 2 gig drive... seriously not worth it. I understand what you are getting at, but what I fail to understand, is why they function adequately in one system, but not in another. I don't bother doing crazy things with HDD's, I just junk them, but if they function adequately in one system, but not in another, I want to try and figure out/ understand why. <--> CH> And as this thing weights in at a hefty 40+ us lbs... Very cost CH> prohibitive. But, if you ever decide to make a drive to southern CH> Georgia, your welcome to pick her up. :) Well my Boss, got a quote for shipping a pre-amp that I figure weights in at a little under half that, for a total sum of $300-00 US. :-((( CH> When I say this, most people going down to Disney in Orlando Florida CH> drive down I75 which is right through my town. :) Make a little side CH> trip. :) Yeah! no problem except there isn't an intercontinental highway yet, and I am not mad about flying. :-) Russell PS. just spoke to my mate, he says it is a combination of memory, and the HDD, he apparently put other memory in the system, and it installed WIN98SE without a hitch, not that in testing the memory in that box shows it to be faulty. Seems I have a "fussy/tempramental" system. :-(( Regards, Russell --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.4.7 * Origin: Rusty's BBS - Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa (5:7105/1) .