Subj : Macintosh To : Darkytoo From : Grymmjack Date : Mon Jul 04 2005 08:39 pm Re: Macintosh By: Darkytoo to Deuce on Sun Jul 03 2005 12:49 am > Re: Macintosh > By: Deuce to Darkytoo on Sat Jul 02 2005 06:33 pm > > > Re: Macintosh > > By: Darkytoo to Mrproper on Sat Jul 02 2005 16:12:00 > > > > > > I've alway wished they would take the sound support out of the kern > > > > create a universal sound server for X, that would be lovely. > > > > > > > > > > > That's the one of linux's many, many issues. There never will be "the > > > universal sound server" because someone will get sick of it and write > > > own. KDE? Gnome? NextStep? text mode? How many thousands of mail > > > are there? millions of window managers? each one different, with of > > > they're own themes. I used to think this was a strength of linux, hav > > > many choices, but it just overwhelms after a while. I used to run lin > > > then I got this powerbook for school. Want to install a program? Jus > > > download and copy it to the applications folder. want to delete a pro > > > just delete it. No messing around with libraries, wider selection of > > > software, and the whole thing just works...no scrambled file system, n > > > having to re-compile the kernel to enable some strange driver. It's > > > wonderful. > > > > All it needs is X integration and it will take off. I they manage to squ > > OSS API implementation in there too, it'll zoom. The main reason there's > > many different sound servers out there is because they are all crap and > > incorrectly implemented. > > > > Macs and Windows have the same wide selection of Stuff... there's just no > > much Crappy Stuff available for them. > > > needs alot more than that. x.org is a quantum improvement over xfree86, but > linux still has a fundamental flaw that keeps it from becoming mainstream. > The majority of the software is designed and written by geeks, for other > geeks. Each program has it's own separate UI design and VERY rarely > documented. While windows is written for the mass market, and OSX has very > tight UI guidelines. > microsoft also has tight guidelines.. windows has the same issues as linux, the difference is that because you are so limited in terms of choices on the windows o/s they all 'seem' the same. apple rocks for their design, and forcing adherence to it is a great thing. but dont think that such does not exist also in microsoft worlds. it does. also i believe there is a huge push for standardization in both gtk and qt systems. i could be wrong, but the reason the themeing is so awesome is because of standards. what the coders do with that is up to them of course. keep in mind that opensource is free and most stuff linuxy is opensource. can you say the same thing about apple software or microsoft software? i think for what they have, they do a fantastic job. i'm floored everytime i boot my gentoo box and run fluxbox. it's amazing to me that the initiative of one brilliant mind started this entire revolution. and it works, which is the most amazing part. think of it. all this synergy disparate and fragmented all over the world, and success is achieved under such circumstances is amazing. commercial companies have failed in this area by limiting themselves somewhat. anyway this reply isn't intended to start an advocacy battle. just wanted to mention that gui guidelines have existed on m$ platform since win 3.1 from what i know. - grymmjack .