Subj : Re: The Documentary... To : alt.bbs.synchronet From : textfiles Date : Thu Aug 04 2005 02:23 pm From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet Hi, everyone. Jason Scott, BBS Documentary director here. Saw some nice discussions and debates and, well, accusations. Thought I'd jump in here. First of all, I want to thank, again, Rob Swindell and Frank Vest, who both opened their homes to me and my equipment, knowing nothing of my "work" before then. In Rob's case, I showed up many hours late (I misjudged travel time from San Francisco to Los Angeles) and in Frank's, well, there I was jamming a lot of lights and cameras into his home, and after his marked reticence to being interviewed at all. I appreciate both of your allowances for this, and of course for the hundreds of others I interviewed. I think it's important to note what function the BBS Documentary is attempting to fulfill and what it took to achieve that function. Previously, and I am not exaggerating, there was nothing like it. There were written articles about BBSes, a few scattered photographs and collections, and there were names and concepts in danger of fading away forever. There was nothing to hang one's hat on, no work to say 'It was like this....'. That's what I shot for, basically an overview of a 25 year history that at first blush seemed impossible to really capture. This is, basically, why we didn't see something like it before and why an amateur with a film degree had to do it. I didn't expect it would take 4 years to accomplish; had I known that, I don't know how much I would have taken on, or if I'd try to do what I did, but there we are, I started in 2001 and ended work in 2005 and that's more than 10 percent of my current life spent making the film. The focus of this documentary is the experience and the situation of dial-up BBSes. It's not meant to be about Internet BBSes, not meant to be about web forums, not meant to be about current "scenes" that have their roots in BBSes, and it's certainly not meant to cover the cutting edge of BBS technology. This isn't hard information to garner, and if someone thought that the video format would be the way to tell this story, then they would do so, or even better, have the assembled people available an e-mail or website away to do so. Applying that standard to the BBS Documentary will inevitably lead to despair. Also, it's important to take into consideration the issue that "complete is the enemy of interesting". In the case of these episodes, they are meant to be INTRODUCTIONS to their subjects, to cover them in as universal and straightforward as possible, without getting captured into that horrifying geek loop of "but this exception... and this one... and these.... and this..." and then each episode is a three-hour laundry list of every variant concept. I am fully aware, and I state so in the commentaries of all of these episodes (all the episodes except COMPRESSION have director commentary or statements) that the episodes represent a scoop, a sliver of the "full story". The lack of non-north-american coverage was a decision, one I made months into the filming when I determined that just trying to capture the nature of BBS activity in the United States and Canada was going to be a years and years effort. How good could it have possibly been for me to travel to countries I'd never been, in languages I do not know, arbitrarily interviewing people with no knowledge on my part of who did what (due to the aforementioned lack of language skills)? It would have been a disaster beyond disasters. So I pulled away from a global view. When I said "a few hundred BBSes" were left, I meant in the United States, and I meant dial-up. This number came from consulting fidonet and other BBS lists. And I think I was being generous. Remember, it's all about dial-up, not internet-based BBSes. So I have to take exception to it not covering something it was never meant to cover. Now, all this aside, there are two things I've worked to do to make up for obvious deficiencies in the documentary's coverage. First of all, there's over 250 hours of interviews, of 205 people. With one exception, I have full rights to do with these interviews as I wish, so I will be making pretty much all of them available! I have made a deal with ARCHIVE.ORG to have a large sub-collection of all these interviews, with salient points covered in them and who and what. For example, there's two hours of Rob Swindell where I only used roughly 45-60 seconds of this footage. Same with Frank Vest. In their interviews, and in dozens of others, MANY subjects were covered, many of the same ones people are unhappy I didn't put in the documentary. ALL OF IT WILL BE AVAILABLE, under a Creative Commons Attribute ShareAlike license, meaning they can be used in almost any way people would want to, including as the basis of further documentaries. This will hopefully put to rest the idea that my documentary quashes additional BBS concepts that were covered. 250 hours. That's 10 solid days of BBS discussion. Second, I will be continuing my work with TEXTFILES.COM and the BBSDOCUMENTARY.COM sites to add more and more information, information which might not have been easy to portray cinematically (remember, the documentary is a movie, not a book) but which can have that all-important critical mass as a location to save this history. Again, it's history, I focused on the past because the past wasn't being told in this fashion. I do not pretend, anywhere, that it's the final word. It's the first syllable of the first word. The problem I attacked was that the first word wasn't even being spoken. Now it is. So keep talking. --- Synchronet 3.12b-Win32 NewsLink 1.83 .