Subj : OT: aside (was: Market A To : Paul Rogers From : mark lewis Date : Wed Jan 12 2005 12:07 pm PR>> Content-type: text/plain ml>> i gotta ask, after seeing the above for many months... ml>> what's it all about considering there's no such thing as ml>> any content other than plain ascii text in fidonet? ;) PR> I put that in because most of my readers are getting this PR> via email directly. So they have a variety of MIME compliant PR> readers, typically using proportional fonts. ahhh... and the gateway doesn't insert such a line and/or their clients assume html instead of plaintext... i wonder, though, does it really work considering that it could end up with a blank line above it and thus not be a header line... PR> But proportional fonts really mess-up the spacing of the PR> "mini-charts" I include. As simply as possible, so it's PR> not too objectional to others such as this Fido echo, I'm PR> trying to persuade many of the readers to use a fixed-width PR> font to line-up the charts. yes, i'm aware... i made that switch years ago... FWIW: this is why the FD folk came up with the NPD flag in messages... Non-Proportional Display ;) ml>> i guess i should also tell you that everything that comes from your ml>> host gets sidelined as not being y2k compliant... how? because most ml>> of the messages, yours?, are dated like Jan 5, 33 (for PR> My DOS/W31 system seems to be, but I can't say for yea or nay PR> this mm reader. it is probably ok... there are newer versions available... i have 0.46 in DOS and windows flavors running here... [trim] ml>> 2005) and blah blah 32 (for 2004)... i can't tell from here ml>> if it is your system or dave emory's but i do note that his ml>> system is noted for not being y2k compliant and that if he ml>> is forced to update, he'd rather pull the plug... can you PR> Don't suggest he do THAT!! I don't think there's many options PR> for me. If he goes, so do I. are you local to each other? i'm aware of at least one other system up that way that feeds from dave... that system also feeds from me because dave's system looses things at times and has had problems maintaining connectivity in the past... the system i'm aware of is in portland... in fact, here's a list of all those up there in that network (Net 105)... BBS Location Sysop Phone ========================================================================= bbs.gexonline.net McMinnville OR Stephen Proffitt 1-503-434-9539 Artik Breeze BBS Brookings OR Ken Parnell artikbre.synchro.net Shadowgard Portland OR Leonard Erickson 1-503-288-3629 WCS Online! Oregon_City OR Rob Williams 1-503-631-4545 The Bare Bones BBS Aloha OR Dave Emory 1-503-591-5103 the first one is both POTS and telnet capable... the seond one is telnet only... the last three appear to be POTS only... then there's the option to use most any other system if you can use telnet and offline mail... since you already use multimail, telnet is the only question remaining to be answered... ml>> elaborate? if it wasn't for me (and others) still running ml>> special y2k software that corrects invalid dates, none of ml>> your messages would make it thru my (and other's) ml>> system('s) (among others)... PR> Thanks. I know Fido's less than a shadow of it's former stuff PR> but I'd miss not having this sort of interaction. The web PR> just isn't the same. you got that right... the main thing is that you can access QWK or bluewave packets for your offline mail stuff... there are numerous systems offering such capability... mine, for one, but i'm having to do some investigation to determine what is causing some anomolies that i see with OLMS on my setup... since i'm running beta bbs software, it is entirely possible that OLMS isn't compatible with the datafiles and that i may need to work out a "shim" program to go between to modify the created door datafiles that OLMS reads... hummm... guess maybe i'd best go on a take a look at modifying one that i wrote years back for this and see if it fixes the stuff i've seen... )\/(ark * Origin: (1:3634/12) .