Subj : Re: Facts or Fiction To : Dennis Haddox From : Scott Adams Date : Sun Jul 13 2003 09:04 pm -=> Quoting Dennis Haddox to Scott Adams <=- -=> Scott Adams wrote to Dennis Haddox <=- SA> Well I do take full responsiblity in it since we are SA> both LCs though as you know my role is lessened. I SA> also disagree with mark being an idiot. His experience SA> is far more to trust than yours I'm afraid. SA> Mark = Runs leagues SA> You = Never run a league.. DH> DH> Mark=Liar DH> Me=Not a liar Mark = unproven Liar You = unproven god of all LCs Gee something in commmon there! Both unproven. SA> I would tend to weigh more than the other by simple SA> default. Nothing personal just experience means SA> alot to me. DH> DH> Experience doesn't mean squat when you aren't trustworthy. DH> Liars are not trustworthy. Experience is everything. I can say that a ball in the sky is a UFO cause I have no experience flying a jet. However a jet pilot flying for 20 years can spot it and name the aircraft and probably the model. Just means what I say to be some baseless opinion and what he says to be fact. Experience is everything. SA> But you gotta understand that thin shred of doubt SA> vanished when I saw all these posts and the amount SA> of leagues you accuse of cheating. To me that DH> DH> 2 leagues with liars as LC's and 1 league with a sysop that DH> was incompetent and could never get his system running right. DH> I don't see that as excessive. Just fits a pattern of denial. SA> The problem is you only accuse. Not one shred of SA> proof has been shown. DH> DH> In 33 the proof was so obvious that a blind person could have DH> seen it. The pattern of the up and down and up and down of DH> the accused board was so predictable that I could have told DH> you a week in advance of when it was going down next. So why didn't you? It would've provent a good pattern and that would've peeked our interest. As to blind I actually have a blind player and he saw no proof in what you said. So in fact that statement is false :) DH> DH> As for 777, yea I should have saved those messages with the DH> admissions but from what I learned I knew I was dropping the DH> league anyway so I felt it was a moot point. No comment. No direct dealings. SA> The burdern of proof is sadly in your hands not SA> ours. DH> DH> It's funny you say that. Where is the proof in any league that DH> we were cheating? I have asked numerous times of just what DH> we did that was considered to be cheating and have never DH> received a reply. All I get is more lies about being booted. DH> Where is THAT proof? Ding Ding. Give the man a prize. Now you know how it is. THAT's exactly how we feel. I beliee there is no proof that I have seen that you were cheating. Therefore in my mind you were not. So if i see no proof in a league from you ergo the same for the league. Ding Ding. SA> Yes your a sysop for many years but where is your game SA> league? SA> You say you have better things to do? Fine. You have SA> time SA> to yell at folks though. I contend before you accuse SA> folks SA> of things you run your OWN network and your OWN game SA> league. DH> DH> No Scott, I do not need to run my own league. If people are DH> going to lie, they are going to get responded to. I can type a DH> message on the laptop in the truck sitting at a rest area. I can DH> not run a league from there. Another false assumption based on lack of knowledge/experience. League 88 was run ON a laptop all over the country. DH> I and most of the players here are not stupid and if we can DH> accurately tell when something isn't right then a LC should DH> surely be able to tell also and not have to resort to spewing DH> lies about everything. I would go as far as saying not running a league might be kin to a bird that lays eggs. But since that would be not friendly I won't. I'll just say that its an excuse and it shows more than you intend it to. .... Home for diplomats, hustlers, entrepreneurs and wanderers --- Fringe BBS * Origin: EWOG II - The Fringe - 904-733-1721 (1:112/91) .