Subj : Re: Facts or Fiction To : Scott Adams From : Dennis Haddox Date : Sun Jul 13 2003 03:20 am -=> Scott Adams wrote to Dennis Haddox <=- SA> a fact of his problems. As to the board above I don't SA> knwo them personally but I think Mark did so can't SA> comment much beyond that. Well now, that explains everything then. SA> The above is a bit conflicting at least in 4 spots. SA> First you say could "still be cheating" but we'd not SA> know about it yet then you say those who do don't think SA> we could find out. First you admit its hard to prove SA> then bottom you say its easy to detect? Confusion. No confusion. If you know what you are doing, it is simple but time consuming to not be detected. It is easy to detect when a mistake is made. When an inconsistency is seen and a pattern is confirmed. SA> I may be wrong and Dev could jump in here but I believe he SA> checked and confirmed the down status a few times. Beyond SA> that unless we poll their phone line every 10 minutes SA> again difficult to prove or study. No, you are wrong, you wouldn't have to do a check but maybe every 4 to 6 hours and only when a board is suspected of that kind of activity. A check like that , heck I could do it on the road using my ppc hooked to a cellphone. SA> Should you unfairly kick a board out for valid SA> problems? SA> No. I definitely disagree with your belief there. Why? If they can't get their shit together that game, then it would give them time without pressure to get it together next game. SA> In the above case its been so long i forget the exact SA> details. Yea, it probably did fade from memory quickly since it was so much easier for Hoover to just make up lies when we left. SA> me the proof. How? Show me the board is indeed up SA> and SA> players are in bre and can login but can't say send SA> mail. Then we'll deal with that board as a possible SA> cheater. Till then hard to prove. What is the problem? Check their mail server, if it is working then it is a problem with the board. If the board is having problems and it is disrupting your game, then sit them out of the game and they can try again next game. End of problem. SA> Did you prove a board was fiddling with mail or such? No. SA> It was simply text in a post. We couldn't prove it SA> nor could you. Why do you wish to be sent duplicate information? The proof we had showing this, you already had, you just didn't want to look. SA> captures of such discrepacies? No. unfournately not SA> to my knowledge. They weren't holding packets. http://www.hofbbs.net * telnet://fame.darktech.org 2 dial-in lines 330.456.0483 and 330.456.0484 .... ********************************************************* *** MultiMail/Win32 v0.43 --- TriToss (tm) Professional 11.0 - #108 * Origin: The Hall of Fame * Canton, Ohio * 330.456.0483 (1:2215/300.0) .