Subj : Re: Facts or Fiction To : Scott Adams From : Dennis Haddox Date : Tue Jun 24 2003 10:59 pm -=> Scott Adams wrote to Dennis Haddox <=- Part I SA> First let me start this by saying me and you dpearted SA> the SA> ways relatively easy going and straight forward. I SA> even SA> as far as a couple months ago ICQed you to say hi and SA> such SA> and you were cordial. I enjoyed your stay In SA> AdventureNet SA> as a poster above all else. I was saddened to see you SA> leave. Thanks Scott, I have nothing against you. It is not your fault that your fault that you turned over the reigns of your games to a blundering idiot. SA> Up to this point I actually had some thought deep in SA> the SA> back of my head that you may be right on the cheating SA> before SA> but then I see your posts attacking 3 or 4 leagues SA> here. Your admission of the possibility of me being right shows me that you are at least intelligent enough to realize that. Including all 3 leagues in my outrage on allowing this cheating to go on and the way the LC's handle it has been brewing for quite a long time now. The first league that I experienced this was the one that Hoover runs and that has been quite a while ago hasn't it? I have been a rebel against cheaters for a long time now and nothing ever changes. The cheating goes on and the LC reacts to the charges in the same fashion. This most recent escapade was apparently the final amount of pressure needed before the volcano erupted. SA> I've been doing bbsing and sysoping for over 18 years. SA> I've seen it all and heard it all folks just like you SA> come SA> and go all the time. Its not even funny anymore. SA> I've run EWOG II now for 10 years (6/1/03 was year 10) SA> and ran AdventureNet for 10 years (this coming SA> september). SA> I ran EWOG I for some 6-7 years before that with other SA> leagues SA> in those very early days of bbsdom. SA> I know what I'm doing and being a programmer also SA> believe SA> I am qualified enough to know the technics of problems SA> with SA> cheating and such. I can examine patterns and analyze SA> situations. SA> You may not think so but i have the experience to back SA> up SA> my statements, do you? Yes Scott, I have as much experience as you do. The only difference is that I have never taken much of an interest in programming. My end has been hardware and software configurations. If any programming troubleshooting needed done, I always let my oldest son do that since that is what he was interested in. SA> Yes your a sysop for many years but where is your game SA> league? SA> You say you have better things to do? Fine. You have SA> time SA> to yell at folks though. I contend before you accuse SA> folks SA> of things you run your OWN network and your OWN game SA> league. I have too many things to do. I barely have enough time to keep the bbs current. I don't think that running my own league would make much of a difference anyway. We have discussed in the past how I would do it if it were up to me. You know I am fairly radical and said the ways I suggested were too strict. I didn't think so but I guess we will never know because I have no desire to run a league and those that do, don't have the balls. SA> Michael Frater was a good member just like you. He SA> claimed I do not wish to rehash the Michael Frater scenario. You and Mark had said that you had thoroughly investigated that allegation and could find no wrongdoing. I believed you and the way Michael had no rebuttal on your findings led me to believe that perhaps he did not have a valid claim. Anyway, what was involved in that and what was involved in the case that I had pointed out were totally different. SA> us and the evidence at hand. How does it look when his SA> son SA> adn others from his own board seem to oddly have the SA> same SA> period of plays and attacks and even in some cases same SA> "style" of messages. Hmmm...is this multiple accounts SA> from the same person. I personally think there might SA> have SA> been. Could I prove it? Not really. No, you can't prove anything by that type of conjecture. http://www.hofbbs.net * telnet://fame.darktech.org 2 dial-in lines 330.456.0483 and 330.456.0484 .... Today is the scene of the accident. *** MultiMail/Win32 v0.43 --- TriToss (tm) Professional 11.0 - #108 * Origin: The Hall of Fame * Canton, Ohio * 330.456.0483 (1:2215/300.0) .