Subj : RE: ALCOHOLISM, POLITICS AND AUSTRAL
To   : Phil Runyan
From : Howie Coombe
Date : Fri Oct 19 2001 09:25 am

Dear Phil, In regards to this message to me,.

 > Hi Howie,
 >HC> Dear Phil, in regards to this message to me,.
 >>HC> Alcohol, Politics and Australia, any thoughts?
 >> Yes. ;-)
 >HC> Are you prepared to tell me what they are? either here or in a private
 > Actually, my thought at that moment was something along the lines of 'I 


A couple of day's, doesnt matter, much,.

 > I know a guy in NZ and it can take weeks for snail mail to go one way.


Ahh but this is not Snail mail, this is Concord mail,.

 > I also know a guy who is supposed to be in Australia but as I understand 


Good, becouse i dont know him, yet, and i would hate to disapoint, oh and just 
for the record you could fit about 5 Arizona's in Australia.

 > but if you do tell him Pinky and Heavenly from Arizona say "hello".


If i do meet him, i will say hello to him on your behalf,.

 > (Marty is also a New Zealander but last I heard he was someplace in Aus. 


Indeed, hopefully

 > Politics? hmmmm.... I'm not sure I want to touch that here.


Fair enough, i suspect the Moderator might object, but the invitation to go 
private still stands,.

 > I've found the steps to be of great benefit while trying to deal with 


Aha,.

 > I'm someplace in between the "bomb them with butter" idea and the "nuke 'em 


Aha, :}.

 > Alcohol and associated isms: Yep.


Yep

 > I've got those ;-) I've only been in the program since 1986 and just the 


14 times 365, that is good,.

 > or at least drug/alcohol free.


You can be sobre without being boring, or at least that is my experience,.

 > I frequently get into the debate about sobriety being as much a state of 


Aha, i agree,.

 > AAMOF I read a really good article just this morning that was related to 


Aha, tell me more,.

 > The synopsis is that there are 3 kinds of AA.


Aha,.

 > Strong, medium, and weak.


Aha,.

 > Strong being the type that works all of the steps, practices the principles  



Aha

 > Medium AAs do some of the steps, practice some of the principles, may have 




Aha

 > The weak ones generally just go to a lot of meetings and get recovery 



Aha

 > The author contends that members then become either strong AAs who have a    
> profound change of life or weak AAs who have a difficult time maintaining    
> long term sobriety.


Actually i think most Alcoholics or for that matter most people have a hard 
time avoiding bad habits, particularly bad habits theyve already suffered from, 
its just that some have a better time hiding it, Anyway ttfn,.

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