Subj : Everyone's Philosopher To : LEE LOFASO From : Frank Masingill Date : Fri Jul 20 2001 05:55 am > What gives people freedom is the ability to make choices. Ideologies > restrict those choices, thereby reducing people's freedom. Since one > cannot make a good choice if there is no bad choice available, it is > not possible for one to do good. We would therefore become victims of > a nanny state, not having the need or desire to think for ourselves. > Not that all ideologies are bad or evil. But there are inherent dangers > that must be understood whenever one looks to ideology as the basis of > one's thought. And it is through the use of philosophy that enables > one to understand what those dangers are, which makes philosophy the > far more valuable tool. It is seldom, in the realm of Fidonet that one encounters such ready understanding and appreciaton for the strong link between "modernity" and ideology as you have demonstrated in your post. I must observe, however, that I detect a degree of inconsistency between the conclusion in your final two paragraphs in that I could not concede that ideology can be intellectually desirable under any circumstances. I suspect that the reason for this is that you see the possibility of "good" dogma and "bad" dogma so it may be, in your eyes, a matter of semantics. I feel the necessity of defending philosophy against ALL metastatic thought or closure into any unchanging (unscientific) or unchallengeable framework because that is how I would have to define dogma. With that once small caveat, I must say that I think we view the misfortune of modern ideology in virtually the same way. The resistance against the spirit of man as displayed in the ancient Hellenic gnosticism was followed by a millenial movement leading to the Marxian and Comtean dreaming of perfection in this world, so attractive to the alienated of both the ancient past and modernity you have correctly described as ushering in the 20th century ideologues like Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini and Hitler and their counterparts in the eastern world as it fell under the dream. We did, indeed, have such nonsensical phraseology even in the western democracies as "freedom from fear and want" and the like. Philosophy is not allowed very much leeway in modernity, yet, a healthy respect for science even a restored social science freed of the felt need for proceeding ONLY under the rules of empirical science is certainly still alive and very much alive and may grow beyond our expectations in the 21st century. We will, I hope, continue to repudiate those ideologues so entent upon hauling the salvation and perfection suitable only to the experienced beyond into THIS world of imperfect man living in the tension between the human and the divine and realizing that to be his home. Frank --- * Origin: Frank's House (1:396/45.12) .