Subj : Back again To : LEE LOFASO From : RICHARD M. MEIC Date : Sat Jul 14 2001 01:08 pm -> RMM>There is a lot of philosophy to be found in fiction literature. I -> RMM>challenge everyone (you, John and the lurkers) to identify the -> originator RMM>of the following quote: -> -> RMM>"We are the universe attempting to discover itself." -> -> Pogo: "We have met the enemy and he is us." -> [Source: Earth Day 1971 Pogo strip cartoon] Not the quote I intended but I can play with this. Now are you certain that your quote originated in the Pogo strip and was not cannibolized from something another had said? I need to be sure of this. -> RMM>Or words to that effect. The meaning is what is important. -> -> Walt Kelly had a very deep concern for the environment, as his Pogo -> strip showed throughout it's syndication. Interesting that environmentalism has become such a fad, though that a comic strip can hit it big right off. You state that the Pogo strip had shown its environmental leanings throughout syndication, I suspect that the author used environmentalism to sell the Pogo strip. -> But he did not create his -> Pogo character as being simply dedicated to one particular issue. -> That is why Pogo's "We have met the enemy and he is us" is so much -> more far-reaching. But in the 70's environmentalism was a pretty darn good way of selling a product. Still is, actually... though people are just now becoming a little more wary. -> Example: -> -> INDIVIDUAL: "We have met the enemy and he is us." "I have met the enemy and he is me." -> COLLECTIVE: Recognition that the enemy is indeed us, whom we have -> met so many times in so very many places. "We have met the enemy and he is us." -> DISCIPLINE: Recognition of the enemy as ourselves as the conceptual -> foundation for balanced and adequate progress towards creating a free, -> just and peaceful world. "We have met the enemy and he is under control." -> ROLE: Recognition of the enemy as ourselves being the psychological -> foundation for balanced and adequate progress towards creating a free, -> peaceful and fulfilling personal life. "We are the enemy." -> One can extrapolate on those themes and develop a working philosophy -> based on the world of Pogo and his friends. Let me know how far you get. :o) --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5 * Origin: Try Our Web Based QWK: DOCSPLACE.ORG (1:18/140) .