Subj : Back again To : KEVIN GIBSON From : RICHARD M. MEIC Date : Sun Jul 15 2001 08:13 am -> RM> "We are the universe attempting to discover itself." -> -> That's similar to saying "I am the eye" .... in the sky -> beyond "We are the world." .... we are the children. -> A person might use different words -> to describe the dawning of consciousness and the struggle to -> learn and comprehend. Pretty much what I mean. I am not looking for exact words used marely the idea. Carl Sagan was a big fan of Einstein so I can imagine him shortening your quote below to the one I provided. -> "A human being is a part of the whole, called by us the Universe, -> a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his -> thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest - a kind -> of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind -> of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to -> affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to -> free ourselves from this prison by widening our circles of compassion -> to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. -> Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the striving for such -> achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and of a foundation -> for inner security." -> -- Albert Einstein Albert was a rather wordy fellow. He seemed to really enjoy talking... so much so that he was often witnessed talking with himself. But anyway... I wonder if he had heard it elsewhere and was simply restating it or if he was the originator. I can also see how the writers of a TV show would take the quote from Einstein and reword it for their Minbari race. -> For a different perspective, peruse the writings of Pierre Teilhard -> de Chardin on "noogenesis" and "the noosphere." What is "noogenesis" and "the noosphere"? Just a quck explanation is fine. -> There's more that I would say, but this subject could easily consume -> far more time than I want to devote to it. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5 * Origin: Try Our Web Based QWK: DOCSPLACE.ORG (1:18/140) .