Subj : Re: The universe To : Bob Eyer From : Joshua Lee Date : Mon Jan 08 2001 07:36 am -=> Bob Eyer wrote to Joshua Lee <=- >it's substance, has been challenged. Judaism focuses more on >behavior, it doesn't have a "statement of faith". BE> What about the proposition 'God exists'. Doesn't Judaism have BE> faith that God exists? I, as an Orthodox Jew, say yes. Ask someone of the Reconstructionist or Humanist movements though and you'd get a different answer; both of them are atheistic (well, I guess you could be an agnostic Recon.) alleged forms of Judaism. In fact, at one time, the Conservative movement housed the Reconstructionist one; Mordechai M. Kaplan, it's founder, taught, as a teacher of Reconstructionist theology, at their "rabbinical seminary" for many decades; and my own beloved father was converted by a Reform affiliated Reconstructionist. You won't, however, see an Orthodox Reconstructionist; Mordechai M. Kaplan started out as a Rabbi at an Orthodox synagogue which fairly promptly kicked him out. Legend has it, however, that Mordechai Kaplan continued to lay tefillin daily in spite of his claim that Judaism was merely arbitrary "folkways" of a "Jewish civilization" rather than a religion. Of course, some thinkers long before MM Kaplan who were personally observant, such as Moses Mendelsohn, did claim that Judaism was a religion without belief requirements. It is noteworthy, however, that none of Mendelsohn's disciples were observant and that all of Mendelsohn's grandchildren (such as Felix) were baptized and married non-Jews. The ultimate consequence of Judaism without Jewish thought is Judaism without a soul; and a body cannot live without a soul. JBL .... Nachal Novea Mekor Chochmah ___ MultiMail/Win32 v0.37 --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Juxtaposition BBS, Telnet:juxtaposition.dynip.com (1:167/133) .