Subj : The universe            4
To   : BOB EYER
From : TODD HENSON
Date : Sun Jan 07 2001 07:13 pm

> 
> SGID: 1:250/710 00a7318a
> BE:
> -But the concept of cause has no meaning unless it occurs in the
> -world of appearance, i.e.  in the universe.  Therefore no
> -empirical meaning can be attached to the question "What caused the
> -universe to exist?" There is no logically possible way to answer
> -such a question.
> 
> >Yes, it IS logical, because if the universe was created, then
> >something had to create it.
> 
> True, but there is no evidence that the universe was created.
> There is only evidence that there was a beginning to the
> universe, not that the beginning was the result of an act of
> creation.


I was using "created" in a more general sense.


> From creation one may deduce a creator, but from a beginning one
> may not validly deduce a creation.


Actually, there is evidence of a creator, and we discussed it, but you
didn't get it, and 
repsonded with the usual batch of insufficient rebuttals.
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