Subj : Re: The universe To : JOSHUA LEE From : TODD HENSON Date : Wed Dec 06 2000 01:50 am > SGID: 1:167/133.0 3a1583fc > -=> DAVE OLDRIDGE wrote to JOSHUA LEE <=- > > JL> DO> copious astronomical evidence in support of this. If this model > JL> DO> is correct, then "before" the Big Bang is about as meaningless as > JL> DO> "north of the North Pole." > > JL> Are you contradicting or agreeing with the classic understanding of > JL> creatio ex nihlo? (Or, as we say in Jewish thought, yesh m'ayin.) > > DO> As long as it's understood that the creation of matter and space > DO> coincides with the creation of time, I don't think I see a > DO> problem. It's this notion that there is actually a "time" before > DO> the beginning of time that I'm objecting to. > > Rebbe Nachman of Breslov was of the opinion that time was essentially > a result of constricted conciousness. He uses the moshul of a dream, > when we dream, we can imagine that hours or even entire lifetimes > go by; but when we wake up, we realize that only minutes passed. > So it is with time in general. 1) How would that square with the scientific idea that time is an integral component of our continuum called "space-time"? 2) Since space and time have been found to be so intertwined, then would it also follow that space is also just a result of constricted consciousness? 3) If the answer to (2) is "yes", then what metaphysical implications can be drawn? --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5 * Origin: BBS Networks @ www.bbsnets.com 808-839-5016 (1:10/345) .