Subj : Re: Bible
To   : Todd Henson
From : John Wilson
Date : Tue Dec 05 2000 08:08 am

-=> TODD HENSON wrote to JOHN WILSON <=-

 >  >
 >  > Curtis, stop intellectualizing about something that is beyond the
 >  > intellect.  Spirituality is not something you think about; it's
 >  > something you do.  Find a modern source to cause the Awakening the
 >
 >
 >  TH> How can you do something unless you think?
 >
 >  Getting your mind to stop thinking is an early practice in meditation.


 TH> Depends on the kind of meditation.

 :-) You're Fiiiighhting it... :-)

                                             >
 >  > ...None of it makes any sense until you have actually
 >
 >  > lost bodily consciousness...
 >
 >  TH> If one is unconscious, then they won't be experiencing bliss, or
 >  TH> much else.
 >
 >  Losing body consciousness is not `becoming unconscious'...


 TH> Care to elaborate?

 Actually elaboration is in the Message to Curtis.

 >
 >  > Ordinary people are taught to be nice and not kill others.  This is
 >  > good.  But initiates are radiated into an awareness of the level where
 >  > Self and God are literally the same thing...
 
 >
 >  TH> I have serious concerns for someone who walks around thinking
 >  TH> that he's God. Perhaps I'm
 >  TH> missing something.
 >
 >  Yes. You are. I'm not one whom you would care to have
 >  that `missing something' supplied. But keep your mind open...
 >  someone might.


 TH> You would do well to consider that which YOU are missing.

 What I'm missing is asknowledgement that "God in us" is not
 exactly an anti Christian phrase.

 That's all. No defensive lecture necessary. :-)
 >                                               >
 >  >...You are always already the thing you are seeking....
 >                                               >
 >  TH> What about the things you are NOT seeking? I suppose the victim
 >  TH> and the murderer are the
 >  TH> same being?
 >
 >  Stop supposing. You have posited in the past that we have an
 >  `internal search' you could widen it, without losing your
 >  Christian perscpective...                   

 TH> You might want to consider your own words.

 You're fighting without any response. That you consider my words
 not worthy of attending, is a choice of course that is yours.
 That's aword gamr a la Joe Voight. (Who `accuses' me amusingly enough to
 argue with `Henson logic') <<Which is he think, evidently
 is  a oh-so-terrible put-down :-) >>
 
 >  > not an intellectual process, but somthing that happens
 >  > to your body in the
 >  > presence of an Initiate or a Realizer like Jesus.  Find a Realizer.
 >
 >  TH> To realize something takes thought, but you said spirituality
 >  TH> isn't something you think about.

 Is it true that spirituality (hoeever defined) is practiced,
 not `thought about (only)'
 Meditation is not what you think. :-)
 If we were cars, it'd be a carburator adjustment.:-) (Wait...I havn't thought
 that through :-)

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 TH> You're dodging. I was hoping that time would serve to temper your
 TH> personality. This message is
 TH> on the verge on proving me wrong.

     Not, I'll wager, for the first time. :-)

     I thought my post was going to be helpful. And that
     is where *I* was, evidently wrong.
     
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 TH> I see little has changed with you.

 Well, I'll certainly agree with your first three words...

 ...but you are correct: little has changed with me.

 Still writing my autohaggiography :-) !




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