Subj : Re: Bible
To   : JOHN WILSON
From : TODD HENSON
Date : Mon Dec 04 2000 07:27 pm

> SGID: 1:153/7715.0 3a280f70
> -=> TODD HENSON wrote to KEITH KNAPP <=-
> 
>  >
>  > Curtis, stop intellectualizing about something that is beyond the
>  > intellect.  Spirituality is not something you think about; it's
>  > something you do.  Find a modern source to cause the Awakening the
> 
> 
>  TH> How can you do something unless you think?
> 
>  Getting your mind to stop thinking is an early practice in meditation.


Depends on the kind of meditation.

> 
>  > ...None of it makes any sense until you have actually
> 
>  > lost bodily consciousness...
> 
>  TH> If one is unconscious, then they won't be experiencing bliss, or
>  TH> much else.
> 
>  Losing body consciousness is not `becoming unconscious'...


Care to elaborate?


> 
>  > Ordinary people are taught to be nice and not kill others.  This is
>  > good.  But initiates are radiated into an awareness of the level where
>  > Self and God are literally the same thing...
> 
> 
>  TH> I have serious concerns for someone who walks around thinking
>  TH> that he's God. Perhaps I'm
>  TH> missing something.
> 
>  Yes. You are. I'm not one whom you would care to have
>  that `missing something' supplied. But keep your mind open...
>  someone might.


You would do well to consider that which YOU are missing.


> 
> 
>  >...You are always already the thing you are seeking....
> 
> 
>  TH> What about the things you are NOT seeking? I suppose the victim
>  TH> and the murderer are the
>  TH> same being?
> 
>  Stop supposing. You have posited in the past that we have an
>  `internal search' you could widen it, without losing your
>  Christian perscpective...


You might want to consider your own words.


>  > not an intellectual process, but somthing that happens to your body in the
>  > presence of an Initiate or a Realizer like Jesus.  Find a Realizer.
>                           
>  TH> To realize something takes thought, but you said spirituality
>  TH> isn't something you think about.
>  TH> Jesus certainly provoked much thought in those that heard him.
> 
>  Word play. This is a serious subject, presented in a serious way.


You're dodging. I was hoping that time would serve to temper your
personality. This message is 
on the verge on proving me wrong.


>  >
>  > Stop wasting your time.  The practice is this: be radiant Love or not.
>  > Or as Paul said: The Secret is this: Christ in you.  The secret is
>  > hidden in plain sight.
> 
> 
>  TH> When did Paul say that? Can you give a quote, and be able to
>  TH> explain it in it's proper Biblical
>  TH> context?
> 
>  I can't give you a quote, although I have it underlined in one of my
>  bibles (stored during renovation, or I'd look it up :-)
>  `proper Biblical context'?
> 
>  Emmanuel.


That does not answer the question.


>  TH> What is Radiant Bliss?
> 
>  :-) uh, think of orgasism. Then think of having a room-full. :-)
> 
>  > But once the sexual jolt goes up your spine into your head, you will
>  > lose track of Curtis Johnson.  And once it goes above your head
> 
>  TH> Why? Why does sexual ecstasy make you lose track of who you are?
> 
>  Kundalini is not exactly sexual ecstasy :-)


I'm aware.


>  > into the blissful tornado above your head, you will know that
>                             
>  TH> What tornado?
>  Stop. *Listen*


You do the same.


>  > Curtis Johnson is okay, but that you don't know who or what that is.
>  > Once you have gotten beyond all danger, you will Know that Curtis
>  > Johnson is just a construct. Suddenly, all of your bodily bullshit,
>  > all of your history, will seem ephemeral.  Given a choice, would you
>  > rather have bodily success, or infinite mindless Radiant Love?
>                
>  TH> Tell me, when does a human live up to their purpose - when they
>  TH> seek after meaning in truth anf
>  TH> spirit, living by principles, philosophy, and wisdom...
> 
>  Few on this earth do that. Most people die without ever knowing who they
>  are.
> 
>                                                              , or when he
>  TH> or when he allows himself to become lost in
>  TH> sensual pleasures that take the place of the higher functions of
>  TH> consciousness?
> 
>  I was afraid you would think like this.


You should change the way you think. Congratulations. You've taken an
opportunity for 
philosophical discourse and turned it into a string of crass one-liners.
Yes, you should examine 
your own self first.

I see little has changed with you. 
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