Subj : Re: The universe
To   : Todd Henson
From : John Wilson
Date : Sat Nov 04 2000 04:14 pm

-=> TODD HENSON wrote to JOHN WILSON <=-

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 > -=> TODD HENSON wrote to JOHN WILSON <=-
 >
 >  >  >  TH> ...If the
 >  >  >  TH> universe had a beginning, then it is perfectly rational to wonder
 >  >  >  TH> about what came before it.
 >
 >  If at some time you began to love your wife, where was your love before
 >  that happened? That the kind of argument here; you use the word "rational"
 >  as if it were appropriate.


 TH> I don't think you can put the origin of our space-time continuum
 TH> and love in the same category
 TH> and apply the same wordings and standards to them both.

 I don't think so either. The point was:

 >  If the universe had a begining, that begining was the very start of
 >  that before which there was nothing.


 TH> If there was totally nothing before, then there would have been
 TH> nothing to either act or to be
 TH> acted upon in which to give rise to anything.

  Right.

 TH> Speaking in a more
 TH> scientific sense, if there were
 TH> no quantum fluctuations, no forces, no reality itself, then it's
 TH> not rational to assume that the
 TH> universe would exist.

     Right. It is not rational. As you are fond of saying :


     See above.

     :-)




 
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