Subj : Rush to Judgement?
To   : RALPH ZETTER
From : Curtis Johnson
Date : Wed Nov 08 2000 12:01 am

 -=> Quoting RALPH ZETTER to CURTIS JOHNSON <=-

 >  RZ> The only liar here is you, little man.
 >  
 >  All this in just one message to Joseph; there is more like
 > it in other messages from you in this packet.  In this echo so far,
 > Joseph has been behaving much more civilly than you.  (I say so far,
 RZ> ?!!???!

	No question about it.  Go through his messages to you and
write down what, if any names he's called you.  Now do the same for
your messages to him.  (We've already helped you some in that regard.)
This step will help in the Socratic dictum, "Know thyself."

 RZ> That's like saying the cop was the "real" bad guy because he 
 RZ> happened to catch the robber in 
 RZ> the act. To blame me for having a naturally negative reaction to
 RZ> someone's bad behavior is pure 
 RZ> bunk.

	While analogies will break down if one tries to push them too 
far, this analogy falls apart with a touch.

	1) There doesn't seem to have been a "crime" committed,
since the alleged acts were quite legal in those jurisdictions
(HOLYSMOKE, MATZDOBRE).  Moreover, because Charles Hunter is truly
out-of-control, and because Joseph Voigt had a declared reason
(to call Hunter's bluff), he would have been the "cop" there--to
apply your own analogy.
	2) A "cop" can arrest only within his/her own jurisdiction.
To follow your own analogy, you should have been trying to make
the arrest in HOLYSMOKE or MATZODOBRE, where I am quite sure you
would be welcomed.
	3) A "cop" does not break the law in making an arrest, indeed
does not break the same law that the supposed perp does.
	4) In fact, the only "cop" in an echo is the moderator.  You
are not the moderator.
	5) Why is that *you* claim the right to have "naturally
negative reactions" but not the other person?
	
 > because you are manifestly trying to goad him into behaving worse.)
 >  And in this very same message packet you claimed to us, with
 > a straight face, that you'd been reluctant to post here in the past
 > because this echo had seemed too "hot."
 >  Tsk, tsk.   
 > 
 >  RZ> You need to look up the word "hypocrite".
 >  
 >  Ahem.

	<Polite cough>	
	

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