Subj : Rawley's Incessant Whine To : Todd Henson From : Joseph Voigt Date : Sat Nov 04 2000 09:02 am Saturday November 04 2000 09:54, TODD HENSON wrote to JOSEPH VOIGT: >> You have it exactly right, Steve. Their turning it into a FLAME >> VOIGT echo was calculated and concerted. I saw right through it. >> About a week and a half ago (24 Oct) Rawley decided to resurrect >> that pervert issue of Todd's that had long since been put to rest. >> When I rebutted what she had to say, the whole matter appeared to be >> over. But I suspect she was only maneuvering for position when the >> decision was made to convert it to a FLAME echo. On 31 Oct the >> decision was made and the three of them initiated their flames in >> one big flurry that continues. :) It was too funny to watch, >> really. Particularly amusing is the fact that both Rawley and Ralph >> post from the same origin. Of interest now is the fact that Henson >> appears to want to suddenly distance himself from what he was a part >> of creating just a few days ago. I trust Rawley is the flame-boss TH> That is not quite accurate. The facts support it. TH> I knew that when I expressed an apologetic attitude for using the TH> phrase "insane pervert" in the way that I did, my actions would get TH> blown all out of proportion. Perhaps it is the fact that I foresaw TH> your reaction that made me a little late in expressing that. But as I TH> said, I cannot be held responsible for the actions of other TH> people after that point. You're not being held responsible for the actions of others. Your responsible only for your own actions. TH> I made an admission of error, and decided to check my behavior before TH> I got too far down the road that you tread daily in this and other TH> echoes. Now, don't you feel better for checking your behavior? TH> I took one step out of line and quickly fell back into line. Good deal. TH> Yet my self-correction and monitoring is now characterized by you as TH> something which you characterize as "interesting", and not the good TH> kind I'm sure. Interesting it is. TH> I find that odd. Not odd, interesting. TH> Now, if you don't like the amount of flaming going on here, then stop TH> adding fuel to the flames. It doesn't matter what I like. She's already been told to stop, so I trust she'll do what is right. TH> I take one step out of line, and you use it as an excuse to march 10 TH> miles onward out of line, choosing to continue to stir up the TH> process, and still blame ME for it? That's what I mean about your objectivity. Now, ask yourself who -really- marched 10 miles onward out of line as she started her flame fest. Be honest. As you recall, you and I had put this little issue to rest quite a while back. Now, ask yourself who deliberately stirred it all up again. TH> After posting a few messages her today, I finally made it to Bobby's TH> message about how he expects things to get back on track by Monday. I TH> hope they do, but they will only do so if everyone is honest as to TH> their part they have played, and not blame others. Indeed. I have been completely honest in defending myself from her flame fest and am happy to see that she -must- now cease and desist. Now let's see if she'll be honest about her creating and indulging it all (it's already been pointed out to her) and finally give it a rest. Then I'll have my focus back on what I was doing before the whole ugly incident. .... There is ONE god! He is the SUN god! RE! RE! RE! --- FastEcho 1.46 (reg) * Origin: The Danse - Where Norse Gods Ponder Their Navels (1:387/638) .