Subj : Re: Rush to Judgement? To : Constance Rawley From : John Wilson Date : Fri Nov 03 2000 01:23 pm -=> CONSTANCE RAWLEY wrote to JOHN WILSON <=- CR> ...John, CR> did CR> you read the account which served to launch this discussion? Yes. An account of an account... CR> I'm mystified. Are you redefining "perverse?" Perhaps. I'm mystifyied concerning other peoples sexual activites, amused, chagrined, lotsa emotions... 'till I come to myself...and think man, it's what ever floats yer boat... to a large degree... And, being the hippest in the room, a small correction: CR> Do you *believe* CR> Voigt's CR> claim that sticking a hand or a penis up someone's rear end is CR> some CR> kind of societal norm??? Just a minute! The hand goes up the vagina: *That's* `fisting'. Morally wrong for lesbians to so engage? I, a mere male, have no answer, no opinion, no judgment. As to penis up the rear end...I have no idea as to what the percentage is of people who have tried it or practice it....nor do I know what percentage it would take to become a societal norm. Societal norms today are the perversions of yesteryear...only a pervert would touch the skin of his lady dancing in my mothers time... The times (Ive been saying for the last hundred years or so) They ARE a changing... And these are the best of times and the worst of times... :-) CR> Did you notice his failure to provide CR> any CR> statistics supporting his lies? Lies? You are claiming that his statements. contested by you, are *known* by him to be untrue? How do you know that? Would statistics have convinced you otherwise? CR> Your "don't worry, be happy" approach to life may be fine for CR> you, CR> but it can be dangerous to the health of a nation under attack. Well, you certainly widened the scope of your concern with *that* thought. I take it you think we are in a state of moral decay? .... Times are never so bad that a good man cannot live in them. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715) .