Subj : Echo in shambles, sorry
To   : Todd Henson
From : Joseph Voigt
Date : Fri Nov 03 2000 05:47 am

Friday November 03 2000 04:06, TODD HENSON wrote to ALL:

 TH> This message is to all, but some parts are to certain people
 TH> specifically.

 TH> Well, it seems our echo is in shambles. Looking back over the last
 TH> week or so, I try to review what part I played in that process,
 TH> because after all I am a participant also.

Actually, it all started with you with that epithet of yours.

 TH> I do not believe it was
 TH> wrong to introduce the recent presence of the topic of
 TH> sexual perversions here, because it's a valid topic, and was spoken of
 TH> in a rational discussion involving it's presence in the public school
 TH> system. I can't be held responsible for how people choose to
 TH> react, but I almost regret even mentioning it, because of the way it
 TH> has been blown out of proportion.

 TH> I also regret being, shall we say a bit overzealous, in naming Joe as
 TH> an insane pervert. Yes Joe, I am speaking to you.I'm sorry.

Okay, accepted, if you no longer have me down as an insane pervert.

 TH> However, I do maintain that your
 TH> statements which prompted that WERE indeed meant to be just as they
 TH> were - provocative.

No, they weren't.  They were made to be pointed, not provocative.

 TH> I would not however apologize for characterizing
 TH> that response as being a perverted response, wording it as "Joe, that
 TH> was a perverted response, which implies clear agreement with the
 TH> teaching of perversion as a matter of bucking the JudeoChristian value
 TH> system", because that was the clear meaning of your words.

Then you would have been incorrect as well, since your implication would not 
have been correct.  My comment about a school board said nothing about 
perversion at all.  My comment was deliberate and intended to come out just as 
it did... that being that it's always good to see when a school board will 
stand up for itself.  Perversion wasn't the issue.

 TH> I leave it up to you to decide whether there is a difference in
 TH> calling you a pervert and my reworded statement above.

There is a difference.  Calling me an insane pervert is far worse than your 
reworded above, but the latter would still not have been correct and I'd have 
called you on it as well.

 TH> I can certainly apologize for whatever part I may have played in the
 TH> beginning, but I can't rationally be held responsible for the way
 TH> that someone here may choose to continue to harp in the above issue
 TH> and use it as an excuse to rant and rave. So for me, the issue is
 TH> closed.

Good enough, then, I'll consider the issue closed on your end.  I'll leave it 
to that "someone" to continue to harp away with her -perversion- problems as an 
excuse to rant and rave.  She's about all sputtered out now anyway, her 
arguments becoming obtuse.

 TH> But as I said, I can't be held responsible for how people choose to
 TH> continue to exaggerate some issues and continue in that direction.

Perhaps you might have noticed that I only had been addressing this pervert 
issue of Constance's when attacks were aimed at me directly.

 TH> I think that if the resident hate-spewers are handled properly, this
 TH> recent spike in hostility will die down.

I think you are talking about Constance here.  As she has been spewing her hate 
at me, she's receiving it in kind, as should be expected.

.... Gay is not a four-letter word. Hate *is*.
--- FastEcho 1.46 (reg)
 * Origin: The Danse - Where Norse Gods Ponder Their Navels (1:387/638)

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