Subj : Rush to Judgement?
To   : John Wilson
From : Joseph Voigt
Date : Thu Nov 02 2000 10:41 am

Hello John,

Thursday November 02 2000 03:52, John Wilson wrote to Constance Rawley:

 -=>> CONSTANCE RAWLEY wrote to JOHN WILSON <=-

 CR>> ...after seeing Voigt's
 CR>> posts in the Matzdobre echo and some of his arguments here, I'm
 CR>> inclined to think that "pervert" is an appropriate label for the
 CR>> person you're attempting to defend.

 JW> I certainly can't speak to arguments held elsewhere, but I followed
 JW> his argument closely in this echo, and found (and find) the charge
 JW> unfair and irrational.

Yep, it sure was.  But I'm beginning to see her real agenda now.

 CR>> Perhaps if you had a more complete picture of the exchanges
 CR>> involving Voigt, Henson and others, you'd recognize that.

 JW>       If we all had a more complete picture, I think we'd judge less.
 JW>       Perhaps you are correct. I doubt it :-)

She decided to drag in Matzdobre in an attempt to attack my character, not 
seeming to realize the WHY of my posts there.  Somehow she thinks my posting 
there makes me a pervert.  It's too funny, really.

 CR>> I think Voigt's response substantiated Henson's charge. Perhaps
 CR>> it comes down to what one believes is the function of sex and the
 CR>> meaning of "perverse." This is what Voigt wrote:

 JV>> "Fisting", BTW, is a perfectly legitimate sexual behavior, as
 JV>> are sodomy, fellatio, cunnilingus, masturbation, and a host of
 JV>> others. Your hangup about "fisting" (not to mention gay sex)
 JV>> says a lot about you and about how you'd legislate "decency"
 JV>> for all of us.

 JW>      Fisting is, as far as I know (though G*d knows I could well be
 JW> mistaken)
 JW>      primarily a lesbian exersise and beyond my experience. The other
 JW>      activities in the litney above are but periphiral manifestations
 JW>      of a wide spectrum of sexual activity. Not IMHO perverse at all.

Careful, or she's going to call you a pervert, too. :)

 JW>      As you say, perhaps it comes down to personal opinion.
 JW>      "The" function of sex? I believe there are *many* functions...
 JW>      <sigh> and we havn't even *mentioned* tantra.... :-)

  Joe

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