Subj : Re: The universe To : Todd Henson From : John Wilson Date : Wed Nov 01 2000 09:42 pm -=> Joseph Voigt wrote to Todd Henson <=- >> I love the bible. I read it almost every day. It is a part of my >> life and a part of my society, culture, citizenship. I hate with a >> ferver matching Joe's, those who use a naieve faith as a means for >> gaining wealth/power/political influence. Jimmy Swaggart still >> wears that $5000 watch, y'know? TH> Hate? That's a pretty strong word. It's not healthy. As you no doubt are aware, sometimes being luke-warm about some things will cause the Divine to vomit...(cf. (of course) Revelation...) :-) The victimization of innocent persons because they are (in whatever way you wish to define the word:) spiritual is, I think just cause for my reasoned hate. :-) Even Jesus got pissed off at the money-changers....:-) Healthy, my hate :-) TH> But again, what does Jimmy Swaggert have to do with the universe? Just pointing to an icon of hypocracy. >> To disagree with, or even to be amused by, is not >> I think to "spew hate". TH> The person in question goes far beyond mere disagreement. I admit his amusment sometimes cannot be distinguised from scorn... (I hereby admit, lest others become outraged by my modesty and force me by some legal means do do so...that I am nicer, doubtless, than Joe. But then I am nicer than most *everybody*.) Joe, I think, rightly attacks with reason that which really cannot be *reasonably* be defended. (I spent more than a year, spending most of my serious reading time on a great attempt: Thomas Acquinas' Summa Theologica. What a book! Still, Christiannity insofar as it defends itself *logically*, will fail. The Gnostic were wiped out, but the Pistics remained. (Gnostics:"Men of Knowledge", Pistics:"Men of Faith") (Knowledge of Gnostic Theology(s) has increased radically since the discovery of 60 texts in 1946... .... and for my next trick I will saw reality in half. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver, B.C., Canada (1:153/7715) .