Subj : Rush to Judgement? To : JOSEPH VOIGT From : RALPH ZETTER Date : Wed Nov 01 2000 11:14 pm > Wednesday November 01 2000 07:33, RALPH ZETTER wrote to CONSTANCE RAWLEY: > > >> While I might disagree with Todd's aggressiveness, (I'm unable to > >> think of a more suitable term at the moment), after seeing Voigt's > >> posts in the Matzdobre echo and some of his arguments here, I'm > >> inclined to think that "pervert" is an appropriate label for the > >> person you're attempting to defend. Perhaps if you had a more > >> complete picture of the exchanges involving Voigt, Henson and > >> others, you'd recognize that. > > RZ> I've only been peeking in just a bit here, but it does seem that Todd > RZ> likes to grab the bull by the horns, doesn't he? I'd have to agree > RZ> though with your opinion of Mr. Voigt, > > You are a hateful little person, aren't you? By agreeing with Constance's > opinion of me as being a pervert, you have also effectively LABELLED me as Huh? Man, what a dumbass you are. I don't even know you and already I don't like you. I've read some of your posts, both here and in the Matzdobre echo, and you are quite fond of being vile and dirty. I read your reply to Todd's stuff about schools teaching kids fisting, and your only reply was that it was nice to see someone rebel against whatever, not even mentioned that to teach kids that stuff in school is perverted. So yeah, your message looked perverted. I I've gone back through the messages here and have read many of the posts to get a feel for everyone here. At every moment you act like a spoiled brat who is trying to stretch stuff and win, it's like you have a small penis and are trying to make up for it or something. If a person doesn't agree with Todd or whoever, then they can disagree and explain why they think he, Constance, or whoever, is wrong. But you go to such stupid lengths, showing obvious hostility, you make yourself look just plain dumb. You are someone to be laughed at. HAHAHAHA. > such. You haven't a clue about ANY sexual behavior I engage in. Here's a clue > for you: A pervert is one who ENGAGES in deviant sexual behavior. By your > somehow thinking I -AM- one tells me a lot about yourself. First, unlike > Constance, I do NOT consider normal sexual behavior (as has already been > addressed here) to be perversion. Secondly, you have no clue about ANY sexual > behavior I may or may not engage in. Ergo, your LABELLING me a pervert merely > because you hold fearful prejudices about sexuality and other people tells me > you need to think about some of those opinions of yours and what makes some of > your thinking rather vile. > > RZ> matzobre. It is quite the little vulgar hatefest there, > > No, it isn't. You need to learn about what hate IS. I see it in your words. > > RZ> They all sound like a bunch of babies who follow you around and yell > RZ> things at you because they themselves are weak. Every last one of > RZ> them. > > You didn't even notice, but you just included Todd in that little opinion of > yours, as he posts there rather frequently. You also included Constance by > association, as she is an ardent reader of the echo. She actually thrills in > her enjoyment of it. But, now to philosophy. How is it you make the leap that > those who post there are weak? Please elaborate. This should be interesting. No, I did not include Todd. As I told him, I took him up on his challenge to see his messages over there. I went through pages and pages and pages of crap from morons like you, and I only saw a small tiny percentage of posts made by Todd here and there. None of his posts had the kind of dumbass foolishness that you did. I know we all cuss every now and then, but what does it say about you people when you log on every day or so for the specific purpose of calling this Chuck person names? You only make yourselves seem even worse that he is, because you have the need to act like a kiddie. What a loser. > > RZ> One big pig pen you might say. :-) > > As Todd Henson wallows around there, are you now LABELLING him a pig? No, but I am calling you one, because the echo is full of your slop. > > RZ> I suppose Joseph is an atheist. > > Suppose all you want. But I'm a little more honest than you, else I'd suppose > you are Celtic Scientologist. No. > > RZ> I might want to bring up Buddhism, but I don't want to get into a long > RZ> drawn out debate on Buddhism against the Bible, because I know > RZ> Christians don't have much room for other religions. > > And that is my whole point. This is a philosophy echo and the tendency for > fundamental xians to somehow think it is an exclusive abode for xianity is what > I find absurd and continue to address. I have a great deal of respect for the > wisdom of Zen Buddhism, but I oppose even having that LABEL applied to myself. > Zen Buddhism is simply more reasonable and enriching than is judeoxianism is > all. You need to work on those opinionated LABELS of yours. Looks like people like you are trying to take over the echo and turn it into some antiChristian hate camp. I have a lot of disagreements with religion, but it says something bad about you if you feel the need to go on and rant about it. You're a small little person inside. > > >> I think Voigt's response substantiated Henson's charge. Perhaps it > >> comes down to what one believes is the function of sex and the > >> meaning of "perverse." This is what Voigt wrote: > > RZ> I feel the same, but for someone who says he's a Christian, that > RZ> response seemed a wee bit harsh, dontcha think? > > You have it all wrong, Ralph. I never said I was a Christian. But for you to I was referring to Todd. > feel that I am a pervert when you know ZERO about ANY sexual behavior of mine, I know what you said ABOUT perversion, and you didn't seem to have a problem with it. > tells me you are deliberately dishonest in calling me something I simply am The only liar here is you, little man. > not. How terribly sad to form such a vile opinion and name call with > absolutely no basis. Now, work on those hateful opinions you have of others Oh, you do like to put on a show, don't you? > and maybe you can actually debate philosophy with an open mind. You need to look up the word "hypocrite". > > ... "The only intelligent fundy...is an ex-fundy." Steve Rose > --- FastEcho 1.46 (reg) > * Origin: The Danse - Where Norse Gods Ponder Their Navels (1:387/638) --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr4 * Origin: BBS Networks @ www.bbsnets.com 808-839-5016 (1:10/345) .