Subj : Rawley's Incessant Whine
To   : Constance Rawley
From : Joseph Voigt
Date : Wed Nov 01 2000 06:22 pm

Wednesday November 01 2000 17:08, CONSTANCE RAWLEY wrote to JOSEPH VOIGT:

 CR>> I think Voigt's response substantiated Henson's charge. Perhaps
 CR>> it comes down to what one believes is the function of sex and
 CR>> the meaning of "perverse." This is what Voigt wrote:

 JV>>> "Fisting", BTW, is a perfectly legitimate sexual behavior, as
 JV>>> are sodomy, fellatio, cunnilingus, masturbation, and a host of
 JV>>> others. Your hangup about "fisting" (not to mention gay sex)
 JV>>> says a lot about you and about how you'd legislate "decency"
 JV>>> for all of us.

 JV>> All of my above falls into the realm of normal sexual behavior.
 JV>> None of it is -deviant-, Constance.

 CR>  Normal sexual behavior?

Yes, normal sexual behavior, Constance.

 CR> I said, "perhaps it comes down to what one
 CR>  believes is the function of sex and the meaning of "perverse.""

You're about as dishonest as Henson.  You failed to quote the part of your 
message where you called me a pervert:

=== Cut ===
 CR>  I'm inclined to think that "pervert" is an appropriate label for the
 CR>  person you're attempting to defend.
=== Cut ===

 CR>  Deviant means turned away from an accepted norm. Perverse means
 CR>  turned away from what is right or good.

And you were applying -pervert- in a sexual context, as you referenced my 
above, which means "one who engages in deviant sexual behavior".  You can 
whitewash your hateful labels all you want, but the facts are the facts. My 
above about sexual behavior is neither deviant or perverse.  It is well within 
the norm.  Because you cannot accept such behavior doesn't make one a pervert.  
Get an education.

 JV>> A pervert is one who ENGAGES in deviant sexual behavior. So far,
 JV>> I have NEVER said anything about ANY sexual behavior that I
 JV>> ENGAGE in.

 CR>  Try not to pervert the truth.

Yes, please don't.

 CR>  Your comments were made in response to controversy surrounding
 CR>  lessons that were being taught to children.
 CR>  ==========================================

No, they weren't.  How about you knock off your lies?  My initial comments were 
made after Henson called me an INSANE PERVERT when I said something to the 
effect that "It's always nice to see when a school board will stand up to... 
(whatever the hell group it was)" in reference to his "fisting" rant. I made no 
commentary on how I felt about the "fisting" issue at that time. It was only 
after he called me the above that I addressed his hateful label of me.  Get 
your facts right.  You only show your dishonesty.

 CR>  What is right or good?

My above description of legitimate sexual behavior surely is.  Too bad you 
don't like it.

 CR> What is the accepted norm?

Certainly not what YOU think it is.  That's already been shown.

As you didn't address the remainder of my message, I have to accept that you 
have come to realize the absurdity of your hateful -pervert- argument and now 
understand the validity of my rebuttal to it.

Now, are you going to call me a PERVERT again?  Run along, you're dismissed.

.... Mark 16:15-18.  I'll pour.
--- FastEcho 1.46 (reg)
 * Origin: The Danse - Where Norse Gods Ponder Their Navels (1:387/638)

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