Subj : The universe
To   : Todd Henson
From : Joseph Voigt
Date : Wed Nov 01 2000 07:45 am

Wednesday November 01 2000 08:44, TODD HENSON wrote to JOSEPH VOIGT:

 >>  TH> You assume that other temporal realities cannot exist outside
 >>  TH> of our own.
 >>
 >> Nope, you don't get to tell me what I assume.  My above stands as
 >> is.  I said

 TH> Then stop assuming.

Now, look again, Todd.  It was YOU assuming something I didn't say.

 TH> If you were interested in actual conversation, then you would have
 TH> responded differently.

I'm only interested in pointing out the flaws in your arguments.  Any actual 
conversation with you is beside the point.  You have nothing of import that I 
need hear from you.  You're fooling yourself.

 >> nothing about any "other" anything.  And I also said nothing about
 >> flying pigs or "other" gods either. For example, some scientists
 >> (mostly in the field of as far as I have read) believe that there
 >> are multiple universes, each having it's own expanse of space-time.
 >> Science works with falsifiable evidence.  Scientists do not
 >> -believe- there are

 TH> Ah, so now you speak for all scientists, and summarily declare that no
 TH> scientist has ever BELIEVED anything about science.

You disgust me.  Please STOP your dishonest quoting of my words.  I did NOT 
say, "For example ... expanse of space-time." per what you have me saying 
above.  You are very dishonest.  Please STOP attributing YOUR words to mine.  
And in your immediate above, I did not say any such thing.  You are incredibly 
dishonest.  I didn't say I speak for all (or any) scientists and I said NOTHING 
about any believing anything about science.  What I said about belief re 
science was that multiple universes are speculative and scientists do not 
believe in them, they speculate about them.  Your broad brush strokes paint a 
very ugly picture of yourself.

 TH> And I'm sure this will kick off quite a ridiculous discussion
 TH> involving symantical gymnastics, and the original point will be lost.

The point is that you are dishonest.

 >> multiple universes.  They may speculate about them, but there is no
 >> reason to think they must exist... and, either way, space-time
 >> cannot exist outside of itself re ANY universe.  You're still
 >> dismissed.

 TH> Man, you sure feel the need to "dismiss" me, don't you?

You remain dismissed.

 TH> I responded to this message because I THOUGHT that an intelligent
 TH> conversation was happening,

Intelligence must first exist on the other side.

 TH> but I see that has been sacrificed on the altar of a childish ego.

Yes, it has.  It was of your own making as your intelligence has long ago been 
sacrificed on the altar of your childish ego.  Interesting though, that you use 
two religious metaphors in your above.  What a trip.

 TH> Conversation terminated (the rest deleted).

There never was one... your -delete- made that clear.

.... "Sorry, Boss, we hit Sodom & Gommarh instead.  Lot got away."
--- FastEcho 1.46 (reg)
 * Origin: The Danse - Where Norse Gods Ponder Their Navels (1:387/638)

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