Subj : Re: Extent of the Torah
To   : JOSHUA LEE
From : TODD HENSON
Date : Mon Oct 30 2000 06:55 pm

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> -=> TODD HENSON wrote to JOSHUA LEE <=-
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>  >  FM>         Well, Joshua, keep the guillotine or the hangman's noose
>  >  FM> stored as far as I'm concerned.  I doubt seriously that I've EVER
>  >  FM> committed your chayiv misa.
>  >
>  > I agree; and if you did you wouldn't have to worry. The death penalty
>  > in Jewish law is effectively a dead letter, so to speak. It's been
>  > that way for thousands of years. (Which is why the story of the 
Sanhedrin's
>  > secret execution of god in the NT rubs us the wrong way; it, like much of
>  > the stories of Pharasees there, is completely the opposite of how
>  > we understand them to have been.)
> 
>  TH> You've also had 2000 years
> 
> The rules concerning capital punishment are not recent; they date
> to the Tannaic era in late antiquity.
> 
>  TH> to build up all kinds of cultural attitudes
>  TH> in opposition to Christianity
> 
> These judicial rules were not built up in opposition to xtianity,
> which didn't even exist at the time.


I was not merely speaking of judicial rules.


>  TH> to the point of denying that such corruption is even
>  TH> possible by Jews.
> 
> I don't believe that a Jewish court would pass a death sentence, any
> more than I believe that a British court, where there is no death
> penalty, would pass a death sentence. That is a reasonable assumption.


Really? Then why is the law on the books in the first place? To simply
teach the severity of 
sin (where the penalty was never intended to be executed)? Sorry, but your
little quote was 
interesting, but didn't prove your case. If God truly never intended the
death penalty to be 
performed, then there wouldn't be any instances in the OT where a person
was put to death, 
which I know there are, and I know that we have discussed some of them in
the past?


> Credible evidence would have to exist. The NT's list of made-up
> names and confusion of Saaducean institutions with Pharasiac (the
> High Priest was not part of the Sanhedrin) by the Greco-Roman authors
> of the NT does not qualify as credible evidence in the one gospel
> IIRC where this story appears.


I have yet to see credible arguments from you regarding these supposed NT
"errors". But, with 
your last batch of messages, you haven't given me good reason to trust your
objectivity in the 
first place.
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