Subj : The Game To : TODD HENSON From : Frank Masingill Date : Tue Oct 31 2000 07:59 am TH> > egophantic fool (in the sense of the "fool who has said in TH> > his heart, there is no God" - not the ordinary "silly TH> > fool"). Only the libibdo dominandi could imagine this TH> > non-thingly, Divine Ground of Existence that draws the TH> > philosopher in his search for it to be less than the TH> > universal experience of the human or pertaining to anything TH> > less than universality. TH> If God isn't real, then there would be nothing that draws the TH> philosopher in the first place. TH> > ?????? TH> Frank, are you unable to understand simple sentences now? If TH> you think my statement is wrong, then why not explain why? That may well be. You appear to be alone here in believing so. Perhaps when you explain to me in more than a simple sentence whether or not you assume that in order to be REAL an entity must be THINGLY we can have some basis for dialogue. Because you apparently do not understand the soul to be, in Voegelinian-Platonic language a "place of the tension" and therefore have a radically different understanding from mine of what FAITH is you feel more comfortable with the assumption that your understanding should prevail. What I think you do NOT comprehend is that I have no intent or desire to wrestle you out of that assumption. You have passed into a knowledge of Divinity that neither ordinary men NOR mystics could possess. I must simply acknowledge that and live with it. O.K.? I sense that you really do not WANT a "dialogue among equals" and that is O.K., too. I sincerely hope not to see your normal procedure of breaking the above into little parts so that you can attack them piecemeal. I don't believe such tactics really fool anybody here. Complete, open, intellectual honesty and sincerity is IMPERATIVE in any worthwhile dialogue. Trying to WIN is destructive to dialogue. All that is really called for in a dialogue is understanding the position of the other - not pronouncing it true or false. I hope that's clear enough. Frank --- PPoint 2.07 * Origin: Maybe in 5000 years (1:396/45.12) .