Subj : Extent of the Argume
To   : Todd Henson
From : Joseph Voigt
Date : Mon Oct 30 2000 07:12 am

Monday October 30 2000 02:40, TODD HENSON wrote to CHUCK PIERSON:

 TH> You're not reading what's being typed. That's the first problem.

The first problem is you are not understanding what is typed.

 TH> Secondly, the ultimate origin of the universe wasn't really dealt
 TH> with yet,

Yes, it was.  You just didn't like seeing it as presented both here and in 
Holysmoke.  You have been told it over and over again, but refuse to understand 
it.

 TH> Thirdly, as long as we're on the subject, nothing can create itself.

So, your god doesn't exist then?  Don't forget to factor into the equation the 
fact that time is intrinsic to the universe and does not exist outside of 
itself.  Dismissed.

 TH> A thing cannot bring itself into existence, because that requires it
 TH> to do something even though it doesn't exist yet.

So, your god doesn't exist then?  Thanks for the admission.

 TH> So that's not logical.

But Genesis 1 -IS- logical??  LOL.

 TH> Fourthly, I agree, characterizing the universe in a sentient way DOES
 TH> make it take the place of God. :-)

Which God?  Odin or Dionysus?  Please evidence your god before making claims 
about it, else your claim will be rightly dismissed.

 TH> An infinite amount of time is an infinite amount of time, period.

An infinite amount of time exists as a concept only.  You still have numerous 
questions about your flawed lines of reasoning I've put to you here that you 
still have not addressed.  Don't you think you should get started?

.... "Creationist nonsense" is redundant.
--- FastEcho 1.46 (reg)
 * Origin: The Danse - Where Norse Gods Ponder Their Navels (1:387/638)

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